Big Brother 13 Discussion

[Parallex]

Looks like... Jeff ...is going to win HoH from all reports.

[OILFAN #81]

HOH winner and what he/she is thinking about in terms of nominations.

Spoiler!

Jeff won HOH and at this point it seems as though he wants to nominate Danielle and Kalia. If one of them comes down then Porsche would go up.

[flamesfan55]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

If Brendon is sent packing tonight, I hope CBS changes the rules of the game going forward. I hate the back door, it just doesn't seem right that your chance to fight for your life in the game is decided by random draw. To me, the 6 player veto competition is a flaw in the game. Why not have everyone play? What's the reason behind it? What good comes from it?

When Nakomis did the six finger plan, which was genius at the time, it opened a can of worms that I think CBS needs to change.

As much as I dislike Brendon, it just seems sorta unfair that some people have two chances to fight for their place in the house per week(HOH and Veto) and some only get one.

I have to disagree here, cant really complain about someone being shown the "back door". Adam won the veto and she put up Brendon, its really only a back door if she the hoh or there partners win it take someone off and then back door someone.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

No, it wasn't the true back door as the Nakomis plan on Jase, but it still has the elements.

Brendon didn't get to play for veto. I think he and everyone else in the game should be able to. I just don't understand why they need to sit on the bench. Doesn't make sense to me.

Oh well.

[Prototype]

Brendon had the same odds of being in that game as anyone else not HOH, or on the block. Just didn't work out for him this time. I don't think changing it to everyone fighting for it would work... it's all about even odds, I don't see how it could be more fair. People can pull the wrong name out of the bag to... works both ways.

This is why you allign yourself with strong players who can win the HOH and keep nominations the same. Can't blame Big Jeff for not wanting the Veto tho either.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Brendon didn't get to play for veto. I think he and everyone else in the game should be able to. I just don't understand why they need to sit on the bench. Doesn't make sense to me.

Because when everyone could play for Veto it was almost never used. Anyone aligned with the HoH wouldn't use it, anyone aligned with neither the HoH nor the Nominee's wouldn't use it. The only people that would consistently use it (Marcellous aside) were the nominee's and with everyone competing their odds of winning was too small.

They shortened up the number of folk that could compete to six to increase the likelyhood that it would be used with 2/3's of the competitors being significantly more likely to use it then before. Of course they had to change that once Nakomis introduced backdooring as a tactic... I think the way they do it now is the fairest and most entertaining (good TV) way of doing it.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by Prototype

Brendon had the same odds of being in that game as anyone else not HOH, or on the block. Just didn't work out for him this time. I don't think changing it to everyone fighting for it would work... it's all about even odds, I don't see how it could be more fair. People can pull the wrong name out of the bag to... works both ways.

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I guess I never looked at it that way. I was only looking at it from one angle. That makes more sense.

I still don't like it though.

[OILFAN #81]

Nomination spoilers.

Spoiler!

Jeff nominated Kalia and Porsche for eviction. His plan is to backdoor Danielle but if that doesn't work then getting out either one of Kalia/Porsche works for him.

[d_phaneuf]

Spoiler!

Jeff won Veto, looks like the Zing bot came back as well

[Hockey]

Not really a spoiler, just something I thought.

Spoiler!

you know what would be funny? If Jeff nominated Jordan for eviction and says Jordan I've nominated you and this is my way of telling you im breaking up with you. I was just thinking that when her name wasn't called until the 2nd to last person.

[Stay Golden]

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Jeff needed to win this week. Looks like Danielle's fate will be 99% sealed unless she gets lucky and is picked to play for veto as K&P are not very good at challenges.

[OILFAN #81]

Veto ceremony spoiler.

Spoiler!

Jeff won the veto and took Porsche off the block and replaced her with Daniele. Daniele and Kalia are now nominated for eviction. Jeff is pissed at Shelly who is a total floater and flip flopping every second. Shelly told Adam and Porsche to vote out Kalia and she is telling Rachel, Jeff, and Jordan that it is best to vote out Dani.

[trackercowe]

I really hope that a floater is taken out with the fast forward this week. Would be a real shame if a real contender is taken out in one night.

[OILFAN #81]

Just some notes from the house on Tuesday night:

Spoiler!

Shelly is really trying to pressure Adam to vote out Kalia and keep Danielle safe. She is saying they will both benefit if Danielle stays as she will remain a big target in the game. Adam isn't buying it as he knows by keeping Danielle, that he, Jeff, and Jordan will be targets. At this point, Rachel and Jordan will vote out Danielle and Porsche will vote out Kalia. Shelly wants to vote out Kalia as well and is trying real hard to get Adam to vote out Kalia to make it a 3-2 vote. So far Adam isn't buying it and it looks like Danielle will be out on Thursday. Shelly keeps on trying to change Adam's vote over and over . This has been going on for a few hours

[VANFLAMESFAN]

For those who monitor the feeds, do the houseguests suspect the double eviction episode is coming up? They know if happens every year, so I'm curious if they have worked out numerous scenarios of how the votes would go if so and so are up on the block.

[OILFAN #81]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

For those who monitor the feeds, do the houseguests suspect the double eviction episode is coming up? They know if happens every year, so I'm curious if they have worked out numerous scenarios of how the votes would go if so and so are up on the block.

Most of them think it is a week from tomorrow.

[metallicat]

But it's going down tomorrow?

[flamesrule14]

Originally Posted by oilers_fan

But it's going down tomorrow?

Yep tomorrow is the double eviction. Should be an interesting show tomorrow.

[flamesfan55]

I hate double eviction nights, seems unfair that one goes out so soon, someone like jeff gets sort of screwed here, makes it tough when people have no time to talk to others to gain votes. I would rather just see an extra week rather then the double.

[Slava]

I like the double eviction. It gives you a chance to see what people really think as they don't have as much time to strategize and think things through. The person who gets the short end of the stick is whoever wins HOH though....rather than a whole week of solitude and privacy they get nothing basically.