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Old 08-17-2011, 09:06 AM   #21
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I don't understand Chamakh, he came out guns blazing last season. 10 goals, filled in nicely in RvP's absence, etc. Since then, he's been completely useless.
Wenger seems to have a real success turning Wingers in to strikers (Henry, RVP, Walcott is coming along as well)

but when he gets big, tall, talented strikers they seem to bust. Bendtner and Chamakh
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Old 08-17-2011, 11:08 AM   #22
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I don't understand Chamakh, he came out guns blazing last season. 10 goals, filled in nicely in RvP's absence, etc. Since then, he's been completely useless.
I blame Bentdner.

A lot of people, even some who’s opinion I highly respect, are blasting Chamakh for his terrible form but what do they expect from a guy who started off very well and was promptly dropped to the bench once RvP and Bentdner returned from injury. Even the best players need match experience to keep sharp and with Arsenal's formation only utilizing one striker match time for our strikers is limited. Instead of giving our new guy time when it was available, i.e. cup matches, the time was given to Bentdner. A few years ago, my cousin and I were discussing how the Bentdner Effect may have played a role in Vela’s stalled development.

I will admit Chamakh looked pretty bad last night but the man needs proper match experience before we can write him off, anything else will be too hasty. Also, people are saying that they prefer Super Nik; really? He may have scored a few key goals but the man was streaky and unreliable. At least with Chamakh you know you’ll either get the goals or frustrating dummies.
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That was quick, Bayern up 1-0 with a nice header from Schweinsteiger.
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This goalkeeper is putting on a clinic. He is just getting absolutely peppered with shots, Bayern have hit the post twice but hes keeping his team in this game.
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Interesting, the Real/Barca game, these guys are making themselves look like petulant children. There are patches of this game that are just getting out of hand. People rolling around everywhere.

Fabregas makes his Barca debut.
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Interesting, the Real/Barca game, these guys are making themselves look like petulant children. There are patches of this game that are just getting out of hand. People rolling around everywhere.

Fabregas makes his Barca debut.
I would expect nothing less from those teams.
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Interesting, the Real/Barca game, these guys are making themselves look like petulant children. There are patches of this game that are just getting out of hand. People rolling around everywhere.

Fabregas makes his Barca debut.
and the answer to the question of how many games it took Fabregas to win more trophys at Barcelona than at Arsenal

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Interesting, the Real/Barca game, these guys are making themselves look like petulant children. There are patches of this game that are just getting out of hand. People rolling around everywhere.

Fabregas makes his Barca debut.
If the Real match vs Tottenham wasn't enough to convince me that Marcelo is an absolutely despicable player, this Supercopa has surely done it.
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I didn't watch but they said on the Fan the match ended with both teams emptying benches and "brawling".

Not sure what that means in football terms though.
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and the answer to the question of how many games it took Fabregas to win more trophys at Barcelona than at Arsenal

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It wasnt even a whole one either, he only played like 10 minutes.
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I didn't watch but they said on the Fan the match ended with both teams emptying benches and "brawling".

Not sure what that means in football terms though.
It means handbags were thrown.

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I didn't watch but they said on the Fan the match ended with both teams emptying benches and "brawling".

Not sure what that means in football terms though.
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Marcelo is scum, but Barca's arrogance the entire match is despicable and it's overtaken Messi now as well who used to be somewhat subdued

They make Ronaldo look humble

rumors out of Madrid, and I think it might have been in Marca today, saying the reason Ozil was so pissed at Villa was because Villa insulted Islam
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I'm certainly not excusing Barca's reactions, but it's definitely a derby type game so emotions run hot. For a player of his undoubted talent, I think Messi is still very subdued and humble. He cheered and kissed the badge, but he's been at the club since he was little so that's understandable.

I think if the Greaseball had scored, his celebration would've probably involved a parade and carnival animals.
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he did score, and he acted like he's been there before

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he did score, and he acted like he's been there before

Well, foot in mouth.

I was watching at the Pub and that was apparently the goal that I missed.
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Old 08-22-2011, 08:36 AM   #38
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UEFA embarrassed themselves giving Wenger another ban today

also an interesting issue, if they dont progress on wednesday its a loss of likely 25m from group stages + last 16 of CL

If they play Nasri on wednesday I would guess City's offer of 23m goes way down

interesting scenario as to what they should do
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UEFA embarrassed themselves giving Wenger another ban today

also an interesting issue, if they dont progress on wednesday its a loss of likely 25m from group stages + last 16 of CL

If they play Nasri on wednesday I would guess City's offer of 23m goes way down

interesting scenario as to what they should do
Personally, I think they roll the dice and probably hold Nasri until the January transfer window.

As I understand, Nasri doesnt have anything against Arsenal, he just wants an outrageous amount of money.
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holding him to January would be useless

he can sign a contract with another team on January 1st

He wants 190k a week, which Arsenal correctly realize is a ridiculous amount
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