Amy Winehouse Confirmed Dead

[saskflames69]

Next up her husband

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Rejoicing the death of anyone, in any circumstance, is pretty disgusting IMO.

Of course, like any opinion, you are certainly entitled to yours.

I wouldn't entirely agree with this. Some people DO deserve to die. Obviously it's an entirely different argument, but I feel no remorse about rejoicing in the death of certain individuals (Saddam, Osama, child murderers). I wouldn't jump to the streets and start cheering and waving a flag, but you get the picture.

But, I feel no joy in the death of a 27 year old who really only ended up harming herself.

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Rejoicing the death of anyone, in any circumstance, is pretty disgusting IMO.

Of course, like any opinion, you are certainly entitled to yours.

When Bin Laden was killed I had a smile from ear to ear all day. I don't think that makes me digusting. Some people don't deserve to live.

[Coys1882]

I know someone who had a friend whose entire family was murdered by junkies who broke into his home to raise money for drugs. I can understand why Puckluck might feel this way if an experience like this had happened to him or someone he knew. We don't always know the history behind what determines a person's opinion or viewpoint. Also, Puckluck isn't someone who springs to mind when I think of ridiculous posts.

It would be interesting to know what kind of behavior this woman would have resorted to if she didn't have access to money to purchase her drugs unlike most junkies.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by puckluck

Yep I have no intertest in the community aspect of the forum

That's why I've personally met about 20 people off the forum and became friends with and I now play with in a ball hockey league. But clearly you're right and I'm wrong.

Oh my point had nothing to do with your opinion, you're entitled to hold any opinion you feel like holding.

My point was about you not caring what anyone thinks. If you don't think highly enough of anyone here to care how they think about you, I can't help but imagine that you don't have many solid connections within the community, atleast solid enough to value what they think. Factor in the fact that you needlessly voiced an opinion that more than goes against the grain of common sense (Somone died.... better go say how much I hate them!). I just can't help but feel that you hold this forum and it's community with a very large amount of contempt.

The fact you've met 20 people is great for you. I've met far less, though my location and team of choice is probably a hindrance for that, but I still hold enough people here with a high regard to not pop-off the more offensive things related to this forum that hop into my mind. Just because you've met some people from the forum in real life does not really indicate how much you contribute to the actual online forum's community which is, last time I checked, far larger than 20 people. Though I would be interested to hear from those 20 if you try as hard/are as contrarian in person or if it's the fact you have a computer screen infront of you.

Originally Posted by puckluck

I didn't realize only positive opinions were fine. And this is also coming from a guy who said they were done with CP a few months ago..

About a month and a half ago, and it was posts yours and posters like you that made me make the decision. How ever the number of people I've gotten to know here prior to that was a big contributer to why I returned. That also has nothing to do with you, but nice attempt at deflection.

[Beerfest]

Originally Posted by Coys1882

I know someone who had a friend whose entire family was murdered by junkies who broke into his home to raise money for drugs. I can understand why Puckluck might feel this way if an experience like this had happened to him or someone he knew. We don't always know the history behind what determines a person's opinion or viewpoint. Also, Puckluck isn't someone who springs to mind when I think of ridiculous posts.

It would be interesting to know what kind of behavior this woman would have resorted to if she didn't have access to money to purchase her drugs unlike most junkies.

Then they are murderer's also.
Most drug users are not.

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Oh my point had nothing to do with your opinion, you're entitled to hold any opinion you feel like holding.

My point was about you not caring what anyone thinks. If you don't think highly enough of anyone here to care how they think about you, I can't help but imagine that you don't have many solid connections within the community, atleast solid enough to value what they think. Factor in the fact that you needlessly voiced an opinion that more than goes against the grain of common sense (Somone died.... better go say how much I hate them!). I just can't help but feel that you hold this forum and it's community with a very large amount of contempt.

The fact you've met 20 people is great for you. I've met far less, though my location and team of choice is probably a hindrance for that, but I still hold enough people here with a high regard to not pop-off the more offensive things related to this forum that hop into my mind. Just because you've met some people from the forum in real life does not really indicate how much you contribute to the actual online forum's community which is, last time I checked, far larger than 20 people. Though I would be interested to hear from those 20 if you try as hard/are as contrarian in person or if it's the fact you have a computer screen infront of you.




About a month and a half ago, and it was posts yours and posters like you that made me make the decision. How ever the number of people I've gotten to know here prior to that was a big contributer to why I returned. That also has nothing to do with you, but nice attempt at deflection.

Read the bold for my response. I'm done replying to you so feel free to put me on ignore. And I also love how the people you've met is the reason you don't post opinions that might be offensive. It's only an opinion I'm sure you're not going to hurt someone's feelings because of what you say on the internet.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by puckluck

Read the bold for my response. I'm done replying to you so feel free to put me on ignore. And I also love how the people you've met is the reason you don't post opinions that might be offensive. It's only an opinion I'm sure you're not going to hurt someone's feelings because of what you say on the internet.

There's sharing an opinion that you think global warming isn't real or that Republicans in the US are causing a lot more harm than good with religious extremism, and then there's saying you're glad someone who never caused you harm is dead. Even as a joke it's just not that funny.

One of these things just isn't like the other and would likely alienate a few people as they try and sort out why you would say that.

[3 Justin 3]

Originally Posted by Coys1882

I know someone who had a friend whose entire family was murdered by junkies who broke into his home to raise money for drugs. I can understand why Puckluck might feel this way if an experience like this had happened to him or someone he knew. We don't always know the history behind what determines a person's opinion or viewpoint. Also, Puckluck isn't someone who springs to mind when I think of ridiculous posts.

It would be interesting to know what kind of behavior this woman would have resorted to if she didn't have access to money to purchase her drugs unlike most junkies.

Wait until the Flames season starts up again.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Coys1882

It would be interesting to know what kind of behavior this woman would have resorted to if she didn't have access to money to purchase her drugs unlike most junkies.

I can't remember where I read it, but her drug problem was created out of not knowing how to handle the fame she suddenly had, so chances are if she didn't have the money she didn't have the problem.

Just very tragic.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Completly serious, was never much of a Ledger fan, he was better than most pretty boy stars, but still in the end just a pretty boy star, and as such has been replaced by Hollywood.

Winehouse was a great songwriter and singer, when she wasn't wasted.

Tony Bennet's tribute.

"Amy Winehouse was an artist of immense proportions and I am deeply saddened to learn of her tragic passing. She was an extraordinary musician with a rare intuition as a vocalist and I am truly devastated that her exceptional talent has come to such an early end.

"She was a lovely and intelligent person and when we recorded together she gave a soulful and extraordinary performance. I was honored to have the opportunity to sing with her. It had been my sincere hope that she would be able to overcome the issues she was battling and I send my deepest sympathy to her father Mitchell, her entire family and all of those who loved her."

I can't say that I was a fan, but I can recognize talent when I hear it. She had a very soulful and unique voice. I think a lot of people only know that rehab song, but that one song doesn't really display her talent that much. I can understand why many people liked her.

I'm a big JM fan, and he self-destructed in a similar way. Started off as an incredible young talent and ended up as a laughing stock and drunken slob. Some artists are just troubled.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by puckluck

I didn't realize only positive opinions were fine. And this is also coming from a guy who said they were done with CP a few months ago..

Yet despite that AND the fact he is a fan of a rival team, Blaster has contributed more to this form and is respected more as a poster than you could ever dream of being.

Take your need for attention elsewhere you child.

[Vulcan]

Sad news as I liked her. I think with most addicts when trying to get off drugs or alcohol need to make a life style change which means not hanging around the old friends and places that encourage their habit. Amy couldn't do that without probably giving up her career. Bad situation that she couldn't control even if she wanted to.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by puckluck

The thing is I really don't care what you or anyone thinks about my track record. Honestly, not at all. If I did, I wouldn't have mentioned what is obviously an unpopular opinion. Drug users (hard drugs) are the scum of the earth and that's my opinion and it will never change.



Comedy gold.

And I'd say that people that think the death of an incredibly talented and incredibly troubled 27 year old woman is a good thing are the scum of the earth.

I'd actually turned my opinion of you over the last few months, figured you were a somewhat typically ignorant child in their parents basement beforehand but you seemed to have grown up. Guess I was wrong.

[fatso]

ha ha ha... puckluck is such a try-hard. He's like HOZ without a theme, just random bits of stupidity trying to garner attention.

It does work though, so fair play to him.

[Jets4Life]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I'm not surprised. I simply cannot understand the things that go through these people's minds in relation to drugs an alcohol.

How many need to die before people learn?

I don't mean to sound insincere. I can understand what her family/friends are going through, but I also know a couple people that are tearing their families apart with this type of abuse. I can't respect that.

People will die from alcohol and drug overdoses today, tomorrow, and next week. It's just the way it is. The misconception is that people who are addicts are perfectly fine until they throw there lives away once they get addicted to a particular substance. What many don't realize is the vast majority of these drug addicts had underlying psychological disorders before they were introduced to alcohol or drugs. Amy Winehouse was no different.

[Dion]

RIP Amy!

Sylvia Young, of Sylvia Young Theatre School, where Winehouse was given a half-scholarship as a youngster, described her as a "a wild spirit" who "was her own person".

US singer Carole King, whose song Will You Love Me Tomorrow was covered by Winehouse, said she was "very grateful" the star had "put her wonderful talent" into recording the track.

Kelly Osbourne tweeted that she had "just lost 1 of my best friends" and fellow singer Lily Allen said Amy Winehouse's death was "beyond sad".

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Sho...mden%2C_London

[Dion]

Winehouse checked into treatment program in London's Priory Clinic, which treats psychiatric problems as well as drug and alcohol addiction, on May 27, 2011. She checked out June 2, 2011, saying she would continue outpatient treatment at the Priory Clinic.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31749_16...-10391698.html

“There is still a stigma that addiction is just bad or immoral behavior, and a person is weak if he or she cannot stop or control his or her use,” Loma Linda officials wrote.

"The behavior and social symptoms of addiction can be hurtful to family members, friends or coworkers,” officials said. “Yet it is these same people who may be in the best position to help the addict recognize his or her loss of control and motivate him or her to seek treatment.”

http://lomalinda.patch.com/articles/...inehouse-death

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

I wouldn't entirely agree with this. Some people DO deserve to die. Obviously it's an entirely different argument, but I feel no remorse about rejoicing in the death of certain individuals (Saddam, Osama, child murderers). I wouldn't jump to the streets and start cheering and waving a flag, but you get the picture.

But, I feel no joy in the death of a 27 year old who really only ended up harming herself.

Originally Posted by puckluck

When Bin Laden was killed I had a smile from ear to ear all day. I don't think that makes me digusting. Some people don't deserve to live.

I just can't be happy when someone dies. And I just can't think of a justification for the death of anyone.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Jets4Life

People will die from alcohol and drug overdoses today, tomorrow, and next week. It's just the way it is. The misconception is that people who are addicts are perfectly fine until they throw there lives away once they get addicted to a particular substance. What many don't realize is the vast majority of these drug addicts had underlying psychological disorders before they were introduced to alcohol or drugs. Amy Winehouse was no different.

I know this. I have seen a lot of this in my life.

Destroying the relationships with your friends and family, destroying yourself. Drugs are never the right answer. There are alternatives.