Oslo Bombing *Updated in first post*

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

All white people are from the same culture?

Your ignorance is just astounding sometimes.

Most of the issues surrounding immigration in Europe revolve around muslims. Not many white muslims running around.....

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Most of the issues surrounding immigration in Europe revolve around muslims. Not many white muslims running around.....

It's not really surprising or difficult to understand. Most extremist groups have as much anger towards non-extremist elements of their own society as they do toward the external enemy. Look at the number of bombings in Iraq and Afghanistan targeted toward muslim civilians. The fundamentalists are angry that so many people are working with the external forces; this guy seems to be no different: his anger is equally directed at muslims as well as at those elements of Norwegian society/government that tolerate or encourage muslim immigration.

[metallicat]

Who fataing cares what he was? White, black, Christina, Muslim...he killed some 92 people.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by oilers_fan

Who fataing cares what he was? White, black, Christina, Muslim...he killed some 92 people.

The funny thing that every right wing conservative Christian in Europe was probably just waiting for an Islamic connection to this attack for fueling their cause. Now that it was one of their own, I wonder how many will ask for a crackdown on their own fundamentalism.

[NBC]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Apparently its pretty much a standard amount.

Timothy McVeigh used 5400 lbs of 34-0-0 ammonium nitrate fertilizer, plus 165 US gallons of nitromethane as well as 350 lbs of Tovex explosive.

Considering the difference in structural damage to the two buildings, it would be surprising if the Oslo bomb was anywhere near the size of the OKC bomb.

[ynwa03]

Am i the only one who finds it stupid that this was blamed on some generic Islamic group in the beginning and it turns out it was some christian guy?

Now all of a sudden it's not terrorism and just a 'tragedy'.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by NBC

Timothy McVeigh used 5400 lbs of 34-0-0 ammonium nitrate fertilizer, plus 165 US gallons of nitromethane as well as 350 lbs of Tovex explosive.

Considering the difference in structural damage to the two buildings, it would be surprising if the Oslo bomb was anywhere near the size of the OKC bomb.

There is also the difference of being inside the structure versues being next to the structure.

One aspect in the OKC bombings that really increased the damage was the relative lack of environment the explosives had to fill upon ignition.

I've read that is why the first WTC bombing caused so little relative damage; the underground parking area of the WTC was simply too big to magnify the explosive effects.

[Red Ice Player]

Originally Posted by ynwa03

Am i the only one who finds it stupid that this was blamed on some generic Islamic group in the beginning and it turns out it was some christian guy?

Now all of a sudden it's not terrorism and just a 'tragedy'.

Ok. Who the hell is saying its not terrorism? Not sure what you're getting at.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by ynwa03

Am i the only one who finds it stupid that this was blamed on some generic Islamic group in the beginning and it turns out it was some christian guy?

Now all of a sudden it's not terrorism and just a 'tragedy'.

It wasn't blamed on some generic Islamic group in the begining, some generic Islamic group took credit for it in the begining.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by ynwa03

Am i the only one who finds it stupid that this was blamed on some generic Islamic group in the beginning and it turns out it was some christian guy?

Now all of a sudden it's not terrorism and just a 'tragedy'.

It's also no longer 'Terrorism' but 'Extremism'.

Brown Terror, White Extremism?

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

It wasn't blamed on some generic Islamic group in the begining, some generic Islamic group took credit for it in the begining.

Some nutter always takes credit after an event like this.

Edit: Also, the very first thought through the minds of the vast majority of westerners would have been Islamic terrorism.

I think that says more about our culture than it does anything else.

[jar_e]

So take this with a grain of salt...but just saw a few twitter feeds saying that if this nutjob was found guilty of ALL the deaths, he'd receive the maximum penalty in Norway...a disgusting 21 years. Sounds like our justice system.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by ynwa03

Am i the only one who finds it stupid that this was blamed on some generic Islamic group in the beginning and it turns out it was some christian guy?

Nope, in the end it all boils down to the same damn thing!

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by jar_e

So take this with a grain of salt...but just saw a few twitter feeds saying that if this nutjob was found guilty of ALL the deaths, he'd receive the maximum penalty in Norway...a disgusting 21 years. Sounds like our justice system.

Exceptions can always be made when a populace is similarly disgusted/afraid.

See Olson, Clifford.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by ynwa03

Am i the only one who finds it stupid that this was blamed on some generic Islamic group in the beginning and it turns out it was some christian guy?

Now all of a sudden it's not terrorism and just a 'tragedy'.

"To see what is in front of one's nose needs a constant struggle." - George Orwell

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by Red Ice Player

Ok. Who the hell is saying its not terrorism?

The NY Times. Note the logical two-step in this passage:

"Initial reports focused on the possibility of Islamic militants, in particular Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami, or Helpers of the Global Jihad, cited by some analysts as claiming responsibility for the attacks. American officials said the group was previously unknown and might not even exist.

There was ample reason for concern that terrorists might be responsible."

So now that they have information suggesting it is not "Islamic militants," they say "Hey, come on... who would have guessed it wasn't terrorists?"

Clearly, according to the NYT, only muslims are terrorists.

[SeeBass]

First Tuscon and now Oslo. We must do more to protect ourselves from white men with guns shooting at crowds.

I believe that the real threats to crowds are white men so it is time to racial profile these people and check them over before they are allowed to enter a large group area.

[HOZ]

It was Sarah Palin's fault.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by HOZ

It was Sarah Palin's fault.

Contsructive, poignant and visceral commentary from HOZ as always.

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Contsructive, poignant and visceral commentary from HOZ as always.

Thanks! Though I would join in on blaming right wing conservative Christians. Isn't it always her/their fault for these type of things? Like Tuscon.