Oslo Bombing *Updated in first post*

[Thor]

CIA contact?? lol, the US wants this guy in Guantanamo.

Stay away from infowars, try the BBC instead.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Canuck-Hater

Some interesting news in the alternative media, its all speculation but this article summarizes the possibilities.

http://www.infowars.com/oslo-bombing...ekar-to-blame/

http://www.prisonplanet.com/norway-b...e-in-oslo.html

Interesting takes, its probably too early to say who was responsible, and what the cause of the explosion was.

I refuse to watch the mainstream idiot box, especially staying away from CNN.

Alex Jones is his own form of media. Conspiracy theorist to say the least - and I used to listen to this guy's show and like it.

[Canuck-Hater]

Originally Posted by Thor

CIA contact?? lol, the US wants this guy in Guantanamo.

Stay away from infowars, try the BBC instead.

Did you just read the headline? Read the article its admitted.

"Krekar has an interesting background. As I wrote in 2005, he was approached by the CIA to work with them. In 2003, he told the al-Hayat newspaper he had “a meeting with a CIA representative and someone from the American army in the town of Sulaymaniya (Iraqi Kurdistan) at the end of 2000. They asked us to collaborate with them,” an offer Krekar said he refused."


"Krekar threatened to expose his link to the CIA after the U.S. accused Ansar al-Islam of teaming up with al-Qaeda. “I have in my possession irrefutable evidence against the Americans and I am prepared to supply it … if (the United States) tries to implicate me in an affair linked to terrorism,” he told the newspaper." -The link on this one is old, so dont think it exists anymore.

[Kybosh]

Originally Posted by Flabbibulin

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Have Christians engaged in acts of extremism in the past: obviously

Do they actively, whether part of a fringe element or not, promote terrorism as a response to blasphemy? Not that I am aware of.
I'm pretty sure that some may pray for hellfire and brimstone to succumb the blasphemous, but they do not physically carry out the acts like some fringe Islamic groups do.... At least not on the same scale (understatement).

Yes, how about attacks on abortion clinics and murders of doctors who perform abortions?

[Knut]

This thread has derailed into a religious discussion, a Debate on why the US economy crashed and now into conspiracy theories. Let's keep it to News (not infowars) about the blasts.

On a personal level, I am of Norwegian descent and this incident hits pretty hard. I hope the news gets better

[Thor]

I'm sure he's telling the truth about being a double agent

[Kybosh]

A part of me keeps thinking, how much longer does Canada remain unscathed?

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Canuck-Hater

Some interesting news in the alternative media, its all speculation but this article summarizes the possibilities.

http://www.infowars.com/oslo-bombing...ekar-to-blame/

http://www.prisonplanet.com/norway-b...e-in-oslo.html

Interesting takes, its probably too early to say who was responsible, and what the cause of the explosion was.

I refuse to watch the mainstream idiot box, especially staying away from CNN.

So the top one is an outright guess that becomes a booga googa story because of lose estimated links to the CIA.

The other basically alludes to it being an inside job of the government. And he arrives at it because his dad works with dynamite.

Think I'll go turn on CNN

[Canuck-Hater]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

So the top one is an outright guess that becomes a booga googa story because of lose estimated links to the CIA.

The other basically alludes to it being an inside job of the government. And he arrives at it because his dad works with dynamite.

Think I'll go turn on CNN

Of course you will...

[Flabbibulin]

Originally Posted by Kybosh

Yes, how about attacks on abortion clinics and murders of doctors who perform abortions?

Yes, fair point. And, I think we could qualify these individuals as part of a fringe element of Christianity... Just as Islamic jihad are a fringe element of Islam.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Flabbibulin

Do they actively, whether part of a fringe element or not, promote terrorism as a response to blasphemy?

So the killings of abortionists and bombing of abortion clinics aren't considered acts of terrorism to you? How about Uganda's anti-gay legislation? Does that not seem slightly extreme to you? And I guess the murders of media members for over "blasphemous" statements by Christians isn't seen as extreme to either?

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

How about just kicking out the radical religious leaders that are found within your religious institutions.

You seem to have a better understanding of my own religious institutions than I do. Feel free to point out the radical religious leaders of the mosque and I'll be happy to. Do you honestly believe these guys parade around with terrorist on their forward?

If it was so easy maybe you should have chased out the pedophiles in your own church?

Where you can't because they represent the majority you can separate yourself from them and call them what they are. You might try beginning the odd religious services with "O Canada".

What the hell does religion have to do with "O Canada"?

Remember to honour our fallen on Remembrance day.

Thanks, but I already do, and I'm sure there are tons of non-religious people who do and don't either.

Publically recongnize the right of Israel to exist.

I think that will happen when Palestine is given the right to exist.

Praise the Canadian contribution to the liberation of Afganistan. It's not perfect yet but, women do have the right to an education and to vote. Be careful that the Islamic charities that you support are not funneling resources to our enemies. There is a lot that you can do to draw a line and allow people to affirm what side they are on.

Yes, because muslim charities that funnel money to criminals have a big sign that tells everyone about their internal activities and how the money being gathered is being used for terrorism. Do you honestly believe the crap you write?

[Thor]

So its a black ops operation by the CIA or someone inside the shadow world government who wanted to minimize civilian deaths by choosing today to attack, a holiday. The scape goat will be a radical cleric who's been fighting extradition in Norway for nearly a decade.

Or

A small terrorist cell attacked Norway today.


Hmm..

[Language]

Originally Posted by Kybosh

A part of me keeps thinking, how much longer does Canada remain unscathed?

That's a very good question too. None of us who aren't in the intelligence community really know how many plots are foiled and stopped before they actually can happen, but all it takes is for one plot to slip through the cracks of the intelligence agencies, and something like this can happen.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Thor

So its a black ops operation by the CIA or someone inside the shadow world government who wanted to minimize civilian deaths by choosing today to attack, a holiday. The scape goat will be a radical cleric who's been fighting extradition in Norway for nearly a decade.

Or

A small terrorist cell attacked Norway today.


Hmm..

Conspiracy theorists have a really hard time with Occam's razor.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by Kybosh

Yes, how about attacks on abortion clinics and murders of doctors who perform abortions?

Were these attacks organized by groups within the umbrella of christianity or were they committed by lone individuals? Were the acts then condemned by the very groups they associated with?

My Cousin from Vancouver tried arguing that Calgary has also had riots like Vancouver because there has been reported instances of violence and others of vandalism. He even showed me a web site that documented them.

I didn't buy the argument. I also don't buy yours. We are talking about two different levels of organization and crime.

[Knut]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Conspiracy theorists have a really hard time with Occam's razor.

Actually, I once read somewhere on the Internet that there was a covert CIA operation called razor whose goal was to come up with some sort of theory that would dissuade people from questioning things further. The man who came up with this theory was named Occam. Sheeple... Jeez

[Canuck-Hater]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Conspiracy theorists have a really hard time with Occam's razor.

The common response. Oh you're just a crazy conspiracy theorist... So this bombing wasnt a planned event aka a conspiracy? interesting.

[Thor]

Well the 2 links you gave are basically nonsense, so what do you believe? Obviously the wording isn't meant to suggest terrorists didn't conspire, but that Alex Jones and the links you gave are suggesting otherwise and are well known conspiracy theorists.

So which are you, since you linked those 2 webpages, I hesitate to call them articles.

[zuluking]

Honest question: Who did you immediately suspect was responsible for the bombing? a. Islamic extremists; b. other religions' extremists; c. politically-motivated terrorists; d. generic crazy person/people; e. other