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Old 07-01-2011, 08:37 AM   #121
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I can get past the terrible plot and the over the top action with these films. What makes these movies unwatchable for me is Shia Labeouf and the terrible cast of characters that they use for comic relief. I actually found myself thinking I would go see this one, and then I remembered Sam's mom and the guy that played Jesus in The Big Lebowski and whatever other ridiculous, unfunny characters that they would add into it. Just no way. I'd rather see Green Lantern again, and that movie sucked.
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Old 07-01-2011, 08:46 AM   #122
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I saw the first one, but I can't remember anything that happened in it... not even one scene.

If a movie isn't automatically memorable, then it probably isn't worth watching for me. It would literally be a waste of time if I watch it and it doesn't leave any type of impression.

To each their own though. It's a movie about robots from space that transform... once you know that, does it really have to be critiqued? It's not like it's pretending to be something else and then failing to deliver.

And I agree with Ark, Shia Labouef is just terrible. It's hard to enjoy him in anything. Even Michael Douglas couldn't save the new Wall Street.
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Old 07-01-2011, 10:33 AM   #123
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Saw it yesterday, meh, I don't see how it was any darker than the first two. Still way too many jokes in there, agreed with whoever said John Turturro's character is just a complete waste of time. Really happy that they basically cut Shia's parents down to one scene, especially his mom, man I hate her in those movies. I hate all the little supposedly funny, small, harmless Transformers. They're just stupid. I just wish this series took itself more seriously, its my biggest problem with these movies.

I will say though that I found this one entertaining. Saw it in 3D (as I'm sure most of you did). Not a big 3D fan, but this one was worth it. Easily the best effects I've ever seen in a movie besides Avatar. The acting's terrible, I wish Shia LaBeouf would just die a terrible, terrible death already. But its a good popcorn movie (I know how much some of you love that term, still the best way to describe it though), and worth it for the effects if you like that kind of stuff. Poor Chicago. One last thing I'll say, and judge me however you want, I really don't care. But I'd also put it up with Avatar in the sense that you should probably be high when you see this one, if you're into that sort of thing.

6/10 (Acting: 4/10, Effects: 9.5/10)
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Old 07-02-2011, 12:36 AM   #124
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I hope I wasn't the only one who thought of Sigma when you see Megatron in this movie. All powerful nemesis for some time, but finally the dude's in shambles, he's going kinda nuts and takes a back seat, tries to come back at the end and gets badly beaten for it.



Also, this movie succeeded in making me forget about Megan Fox. Bravo.
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Old 07-02-2011, 01:02 AM   #125
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I hope I wasn't the only one who thought of Sigma when you see Megatron in this movie. All powerful nemesis for some time, but finally the dude's in shambles, he's going kinda nuts and takes a back seat, tries to come back at the end and gets badly beaten for it.



Also, this movie succeeded in making me forget about Megan Fox. Bravo.
Haha, yea, now that you mention it there's definietely a massive resemblence. Megaman X, Sigma is this scary dude and the whole game is built around trying to get to him and kick his butt from here to Alabama. By X5 you just kinda laugh when you get to Sigma. Poor Megatron...poor Sigma. They need to start building up some scary villains again, I miss bad guys that you truly dread.
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Old 07-03-2011, 12:32 AM   #126
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I loved that my theater gave the movie a standing ovation when it ended. I mean the effects were good, but not worthy of a standing ovation.
I, for one, was more than willing to give it a standing ovation after it mercifully ended. Unfortunately, the splitting headache that I had from the 3D made standing a little difficult.

It was a ridiculous movie that made me wish I could be anywhere else. I can imagine that Transformers could have been a well done film if it was in the hands of a competent director. There is nothing about the Transformers concept that makes it inherently awful. Maybe they'll follow Spiderman's lead and reboot the series and take it in a different direction.
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Old 07-03-2011, 01:13 AM   #127
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Yeah, maybe they can do what they did with Star Trek and show us Tansformers the early day.

They're all born as Tonka Toy cars with a slightly undeveloped ability to transform into robots.

Just think of the merchandising.
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I have no idea how Bay managed to make this one worse than the second, but he came through. The only redeeming quality Dark of the Moon had was that it (eventually) ended. Shia LeBeouf is already one of the most annoying actors in hollywood to begin with, so who had the bright idea to start him off as a whiny, annoying, degenerate loser who inexplicably lucked into a second hot girlfriend? Speaking of, I love hot British chicks, but she managed to be nearly as useless as Megan Fox.

The entire bit where Sam gets a job as a mailboy, "impressing" this tough-as-nails boss who runs a compay in a fashion that would make Hitler cringe was horrible. From the creepy, over-the-top Asian loser to the bad homophobic jokes and said boss later turning into some sniveling wimp that Pulp Fiction's Gimp would have dominated.

And then, halfway though, it turned into Battle: Chicago and Shia's character does a hero transformation even less believable than Emilio Estevez in Judgement Night.

Just a horrible movie all around.
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Old 07-03-2011, 03:52 PM   #129
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And then, halfway though, it turned into Battle: Chicago and Shia's character does a hero transformation even less believable than Emilio Estevez in Judgement Night.

Just a horrible movie all around.
Don't agree, but that reference made me laugh. Judgement Night, oh man.
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said boss later turning into some sniveling wimp that Pulp Fiction's Gimp would have dominated.
That was definitely my least favorite part of the movie.
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I have no idea how Bay managed to make this one worse than the second, but he came through. The only redeeming quality Dark of the Moon had was that it (eventually) ended. Shia LeBeouf is already one of the most annoying actors in hollywood to begin with, so who had the bright idea to start him off as a whiny, annoying, degenerate loser who inexplicably lucked into a second hot girlfriend? Speaking of, I love hot British chicks, but she managed to be nearly as useless as Megan Fox.

The entire bit where Sam gets a job as a mailboy, "impressing" this tough-as-nails boss who runs a compay in a fashion that would make Hitler cringe was horrible. From the creepy, over-the-top Asian loser to the bad homophobic jokes and said boss later turning into some sniveling wimp that Pulp Fiction's Gimp would have dominated.

And then, halfway though, it turned into Battle: Chicago and Shia's character does a hero transformation even less believable than Emilio Estevez in Judgement Night.

Just a horrible movie all around.
Haters gonna hate. Just kidding...

But one thing I HAVE noticed about this movie, people will either enjoy it for what it is or absolutely hate it with a passion and pretty much nothing could change their minds about it.

All the awkward humour, the type of acting used, Shia for example...you really have to be invested into that to enjoy it, otherwise you'll get the reaction that you received. Just annoying, boring and could have done much better.

I wasn't a big fan of the 2nd movie but I loved the third movie when I tempered my expectations, it really did impress IMO.
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Old 07-03-2011, 08:20 PM   #132
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lol, I didn't have high expectations for this one. Which is why I am surprised I found it so bad. IMO, Sam was the biggest problem. They tried to show him as being restless because he isn't making a difference anymore. Instead, he came off as a whiny, self-absorbed and completely unsympathetic character who, in the real world, would have been thrown out on the streets by his girlfriend long before the movie started. When a movie makes you hate the protagonist without meaning to, it's doomed from the beginning.

Hell, every single human character was weakly done. It was left to the robots to try and save the film and Bay never figured out how to make them the star of the movie.
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Old 07-03-2011, 08:27 PM   #133
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lol, I didn't have high expectations for this one. Which is why I am surprised I found it so bad. IMO, Sam was the biggest problem. They tried to show him as being restless because he isn't making a difference anymore. Instead, he came off as a whiny, self-absorbed and completely unsympathetic character who, in the real world, would have been thrown out on the streets by his girlfriend long before the movie started. When a movie makes you hate the protagonist without meaning to, it's doomed from the beginning.

Hell, every single human character was weakly done. It was left to the robots to try and save the film and Bay never figured out how to make them the star of the movie.
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lol, I didn't have high expectations for this one. Which is why I am surprised I found it so bad. IMO, Sam was the biggest problem. They tried to show him as being restless because he isn't making a difference anymore. Instead, he came off as a whiny, self-absorbed and completely unsympathetic character who, in the real world, would have been thrown out on the streets by his girlfriend long before the movie started. When a movie makes you hate the protagonist without meaning to, it's doomed from the beginning.

Hell, every single human character was weakly done. It was left to the robots to try and save the film and Bay never figured out how to make them the star of the movie.
That's fair enough....thing is with Transformers' movies I've basically gunned it down to seeing how visually effective they can be with a loose storyline.

I don't mind the characters, if I was that interested in the characters then I'd find the movie insanely annoying as I'm sure you did.

But you made a good point what was with his character? In RL he'd never land anyone that hot...twice, and if he whined that much his ass would be on the curb.
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Old 07-03-2011, 09:48 PM   #136
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Count me in among those who enjoyed the film.

I went in expecting the acting and dialogue to be subpar, and it was, but overall I enjoyed the film. It's an excellent summer flick, one in which you can more or less turn your brain off and simply enjoy some mindless robot on robot carnage with a hot girl mixed in.

I also thought the 3D was well done, and did an excellent job of enhancing the film. Overall, it was very visually stimulating, which made up for other weaknesses in the film.
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Why do "summer flicks" have to be bad? You can only watch good movies during oscar season?
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Why do "summer flicks" have to be bad? You can only watch good movies during oscar season?
They don't, but for some people it's an easy excuse.

X-Men: First Class is one of the best movies I've seen in 2011, it's ten times better then any Transformer garbage, and had amazing action too.
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They don't, but for some people it's an easy excuse.

X-Men: First Class is one of the best movies I've seen in 2011, it's ten times better then any Transformer garbage, and had amazing action too.

That was going to be my example as well. And to consider that First Class was a rushed production too!
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Why do "summer flicks" have to be bad? You can only watch good movies during oscar season?
I fully expect Captain America, Cowboys vs Aliens, and even Harry Potter to be good. Not even a Harry Potter fan, but I can't turn down a movie with a cast like that (Gary Oldman & Ralph Fiennes in the same movie).

Thor, X-Men, and Super 8 were also either very good in their own rights.

Transformers was destined to suck with Bay steering the ship. He had some good films in the 90's (The Rock and Bad Boys), but everything he has made since then has been utter trash. DotM is no exception. Great special effects, but does that really matter when you don't care about the characters or story?

They should of killed off the cast and NOT the Transformers.
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