2011 Blue Jays Season Thread

[Cheese]

^^^ so much for Beede not signing with any team! LOL...money speaks loudly. I just hope he brings his A game and doesnt take the money and run, so to speak.

[Matty81]

Wow you are fast breaking that signing, can't find it anywhere online.

Great news for the Jays to get one of their tougher signings done quickly and into the system. AA has got his work cut out for him over the next month between working on that list and deciding what to do with the rotation as it implodes.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by Matty81

Wow you are fast breaking that signing, can't find it anywhere online.

Great news for the Jays to get one of their tougher signings done quickly and into the system. AA has got his work cut out for him over the next month between working on that list and deciding what to do with the rotation as it implodes.

It's not signed, but the dollars have been worked out. In the MLB, they don't announce signings over slot right away because the MLB frowns upon it. That's why you usually only hear of signings that are under slot until closer towards the deadline in August. That's why Deck McGuire wasn't signed until the day before, even though they had a framework done prior to it.

Of the ones I've listed, only 5 have officially signed, but the others have agreed to terms that are significantly higher than slot (Vega-Rosaro, and Beede)

If the info turns out to be bad at a later time, I'll change it, but usually if there's smoke, there's fire. Last year, I only had to make one correction and that's because he decided to go to college at the last minute instead.

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

It's not signed, but the dollars have been worked out. In the MLB, they don't announce signings over slot right away because the MLB frowns upon it. That's why you usually only hear of signings that are under slot until closer towards the deadline in August. That's why Deck McGuire wasn't signed until the day before, even though they had a framework done prior to it.

Of the ones I've listed, only 5 have officially signed, but the others have agreed to terms that are significantly higher than slot (Vega-Rosaro, and Beede)

If the info turns out to be bad at a later time, I'll change it, but usually if there's smoke, there's fire. Last year, I only had to make one correction and that's because he decided to go to college at the last minute instead.

Appreciate the info either way - it was nice to read some positive news after the weekend pasting.

I'm enjoying the baseball reading this summer (trying to block the Canucks out) and would love to find a good broad spectrum MLB forum with lots of activity - do you have a good site you go to?

[Caged Great]

I usually get my info from http://www.forums.mlb.com/ml-bluejays

There's not a lot of different posters, and it can be a bit childish at times, but there's a lot of inside info there.

Usually things get posted on there a couple days before it gets around on the net, like Musgrove signing for 500K. Sort of like here on CP with Sureloss and all the others.

[Caged Great]

Drabek got sent to AAA

Zack Stewart was added to the 40 man roster and was recalled and will take his place.

[Kelekin]

As a bit of a suggestion, maybe use italics for deals that are agreed to but not official? The Beede deal is not a "done deal", he hasn't signed, and while he likely will and most likely also in that price range, I think it'd just be good if we separate it

Of course, it's up to you, but I just figure it's helpful. Last year there would be some players bolded that didn't end up signing.

EDIT: I read that thread on the Blue Jays forum. It was a link to Keith Law answering a question on Twitter saying he expected Beede would sign for 3 Mil. There has been no movement on this front, and he is not signed nor has he agreed to a deal in principle.

[Caged Great]

Decided to update this one with a modification separating the ones that are signed, and ones that apparently have the money worked out but might get delayed due to MLB rules.

29th round pick RHP Cole Taylor Signed, and supplemental 1st rounder Jacob Anderson has apparently got a contract frame worked out, but hasn't signed yet (he tweeted that himself, so I figure that might be accurate)

Pitcher

Kevin Comer - 1st Supplemental round
Daniel Norris - 2nd round
Jeremy Gabryszwski - 2nd round
John Stilson - 3rd round
Thomas Robson - 4th round
Anthony Chin - 5th round
Anthony DeSclafani - 6th round
Mark Biggs - 8th round
Andrew Suarez - 9th round
Aaron Garza - 10th round
Nicolas Wiper - 14th round
Cody Glen - 15th round
Brady Dragmire - 17th round
Luke Weaver - 19th round
Joel Seddon - 20th round
Aaron Nola - 22nd round
David Rollins - 24th round
Taylor Cole - 29th round - Signed
Kramer Champlin - 33rd round
Jerrick Suiter - 35th round
Andrew Sikula - 36th round
Leslie Williams - 37th round
Chris Cox - 39th round
Jake Eliopoulos - 43rd round
Colby Broussard - 44th round
Shane Farrel - 46th round
Charlie Lamar - 49th round

C

Luis Munoz - 34th round

1B

Richard Prigatano - 16th round
Eric Arce - 25th round
Kevin Patterson - 30th round
John Coy - 45th round

2B

Jonathan Berti - 18th round

SS

Christian Lopes - 7th round
Andrew Burns - 11th round
Peter Mooney - 21st round
K'Shawn Smith - 23rd round
Austin Nola - 31st round
Cody Barrett - 41st round

3B

Matt Dean - 13th round
Austin Davis - 47th round

Outfielders

Jacob Andersen - 1st Supplemental round - Dollars worked out, not signed
Dwight Smith - 1st Supplemental round
John Norwood - 12th round
Derrick Lovelace - 27th round
Kevin Pillar - 32nd round
Jacob Wakamatsu - 48th round

Signed

Musgrove (RHP - 1st round), Atkinson (SS - 26th round), Cole(RHP - 29th round), Taylor (RF - 38th round),
Baligod (OF - 40th round), Davis (LHP - 42nd round) , Brown (RHP - 50th round)

Unofficially Signed, but have dollar frameworks in place

Beede (RHP - 1st round), Anderson (OF - 1st Round), Vega-Rosado (SS - 28th round),

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by Kelekin

As a bit of a suggestion, maybe use italics for deals that are agreed to but not official? The Beede deal is not a "done deal", he hasn't signed, and while he likely will and most likely also in that price range, I think it'd just be good if we separate it

Of course, it's up to you, but I just figure it's helpful. Last year there would be some players bolded that didn't end up signing.

EDIT: I read that thread on the Blue Jays forum. It was a link to Keith Law answering a question on Twitter saying he expected Beede would sign for 3 Mil. There has been no movement on this front, and he is not signed nor has he agreed to a deal in principle.

Kevin Goldstein tweeted

Lots of industry rumors that the #BlueJays had a pre-draft deal done with 1st round pick Tyler Beede. Against the rules; but always happens

So it seems that things are somewhat moving towards a deal. I'll leave him in the limbo section with Vega-Rosado and now Jacob Anderson until more info comes up.

[socalwingfan]

Here's a link to a real good piece of Bautista, I have to admit prior to reading this I was very skeptical about Bautista's improvement not aided by PEDS but this has removed that thought from my mind
http://www.thepostgame.com/features/...-way-greatness

[Kelekin]

Love the new format Caged. Just as a note it is "Taylor Cole" not "Cole Taylor".

He's one of the more interesting picks to find in the 29th round. 1st rounder out of high school, but no one could get a read on his signability due to his desire to go on a mormon mission. Finally took the mission in Toronto after 1st junior college season, and just played his first season of NCAA ball this year and was the ace of the staff.

[Gozer]

Decent start to the game tonight!

[Matty81]

Stewart is pitching great (although as I wrote this gave up his first ER in the 5th) but the Jays are making Longball Guthrie look like Cy Young out there today.

*Edit first run was in the 6th - went through 5 scoreless

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Matty81

Stewart is pitching great (although as I wrote this gave up his first ER in the 5th) but the Jays are making Longball Guthrie look like Cy Young out there today.

*Edit first run was in the 6th - went through 5 scoreless

Guthrie leaves the game due to a back injury..

Jays have tied it up with a single from Bautista (2-2)

Going to top of the 7th.

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by flambers

Guthrie leaves the game due to a back injury..

Jays have tied it up with a single from Bautista (2-2)

Going to top of the 7th.

Thought they had the series sweep when Hill got a single and loaded the bases there until I saw Edwin come up to the box. DP and back into the battle. Fun to watch Stewart pitch so far though - great movement and he came out pounding the strike zone.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Matty81

Thought they had the series sweep when Hill got a single and loaded the bases there until I saw Edwin come up to the box. .

Yep, Jays should release "E5" already... That fellow adds nothing to the roster.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by flambers

Yep, Jays should release "E5" already... That fellow adds nothing to the roster.

I think he's living on borrowed time afforded to him by that injury to Brett Lawrie.

[Wise Gamble]

Line movement was telling for todays game.....only a matter of time before the Orioles could stop their losing streak in Toronto. Many missed opportunities for both sides and awful closing by Rauch.

[Matty81]

I'd say Nix has the inside track on getting punted before Encarnacion but I think it'll be close between them. Nix plays hard and has my respect at least relative to E5 but I don't think I've seen a worse batter play everyday for the Jays ever even if only for a short stretch. I remember thinking Manny Lee was bad during the first year I ever watched the Jays and looking back he was 60 points better.

Is it just me or does Nix look like he uses a mini bat or has super short arms? He looks like an oompa loompa on outside strikes.

Snider is hitting again with a 16/26 streak going on right now in AAA - having him and Lawrie replace those two in the next two weeks would be amazing.

Apparently McGowan is really looking good right now too in the further good news category. Threw 2.0 scoreless innings at extended spring a couple days ago hitting 94.

[Wise Gamble]

Can't wait until Lawrie gets a chance here