Canada Post Strike

[PeteLFan]

I get 8 sick days a year. They do not carry over so ifyou don't use it, you lose it.

We probably get 8, because our jobs not highly stressful like a mailman or as physically demanding of mailmen.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Maybe I've missed something and if I have I'm sure numerous people will point out my folly but what's with all the talk of how physically demanding CP jobs are?

One CP job is physically demanding. Letter carrier. Maybe a couple other ones.

But AFAIK it isn't just the letter carriers that are going on strike. It is also the drivers, depot workers and other assorted easy as #### jobs that are going on strike. Why do people in this thread keep referencing how difficult it is?

I'd like to see the breakdown of letter carriers vs the other dozens of jobs that people work at CP. Letter carriers are probably like 20% of the workforce.

[PeteLFan]

Man my mail goes straight to a box, I go fetch it like a dog after that. If driving a mail truck and stuffing mail in a box is hard, sign ne up.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by PeteLFan

Man my mail goes straight to a box, I go fetch it like a dog after that. If driving a mail truck and stuffing mail in a box is hard, sign ne up.

If your mail goes to a superbox it is likely delivered by an overworked, underpaid (and vastly undereducated) contract carrier. They are not part of the union.

They drive their own vehicles and get #### pay. And from my experience a good portion of them aren't even qualified to do deliver mail to superboxes. Pretty sure you have to be able to read the addresses to deliver mail.

[PeteLFan]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

If your mail goes to a superbox it is likely delivered by an overworked, underpaid (and vastly undereducated) contract carrier. They are not part of the union.

They drive their own vehicles and get #### pay. And from my experience a good portion of them aren't even qualified to do deliver mail to superboxes. Pretty sure you have to be able to read the addresses to deliver mail.

Yeah super boxes. My mail is actually pretty good here.

Then who are the ones crying and striking?

[Zevo]

Originally Posted by WilsonFourTwo

I bet the average Doctor doesn't have 23 sick days in a year. Playing life and death around sick people isn't exactly stress free.....

The average doctor also makes 200,000+ a year, and that's just a GP. If they specialize, they make 500,000+ a year. That aleviates a lot of stress.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by Zevo

The average doctor also makes 200,000+ a year, and that's just a GP. If they specialize, they make 500,000+ a year. That aleviates a lot of stress.

Quite the opposite, the more you get paid, the more stress you have because of your job. Money doesnt solve your problems.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by PeteLFan

Yeah super boxes. My mail is actually pretty good here.

Then who are the ones crying and striking?

As far as I know it is the union workers. That would be all the CP truck drivers, letter carriers (who deliver to homes), depot workers, and other assorted bureaucracy but I could be wrong.

The focus in this thread seems to be letter carriers who are a huge minority from what i know. Again, I could be wrong though.

[PeteLFan]

Letter carriers look to be going extinct.

I can understand the brutality of working in the winter, but these pages worth of posts about people coming back puking lol, unable to perform common now.

You know what you signed up for, you should take better care of your body and joints if it causes so much distress.

[Zevo]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Quite the opposite, the more you get paid, the more stress you have because of your job. Money doesnt solve your problems.

It would solve most of mine.

[4X4]

What's the difference between a letter carrier's daily logged kilometers and any other job in a stockyard or a large shop where people have to walk back and forth with tools and things like that?
Sorry, letter carriers, your job is no harder than any other job. Cry me a river over your 15km per day; I bet I walked that much per shift back when I worked at a gas station, and I endured the same weather, for more like $6/hour, though I'm sure they're making twice that by now.

[The Goon]

Originally Posted by PeteLFan

Letter carriers look to be going extinct.

I can understand the brutality of working in the winter, but these pages worth of posts about people coming back puking lol, unable to perform common now.

You know what you signed up for, you should take better care of your body and joints if it causes so much distress.

They're puking up laughter? And do you mean common tasks? There's a word missing there that may assist your point.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Zevo

The average doctor also makes 200,000+ a year, and that's just a GP. If they specialize, they make 500,000+ a year. That aleviates a lot of stress.

My sister is in the later category, with the outrageous hours, giving up huge chunks of her life due to rotations and on calls, the fact that she is dealing with sick and dying patients all of the time where there is nothing that she can do but watch them go through the process of dying.

She's under a daunting and incredible workload with tremendous stress thrown in.

Put into that the fact that she has to research and publish on top of her normal work and its not much of a life.

[burnin_vernon]

Originally Posted by PeteLFan

Letter carriers look to be going extinct.

I can understand the brutality of working in the winter, but these pages worth of posts about people coming back puking lol, unable to perform common now.

You know what you signed up for, you should take better care of your body and joints if it causes so much distress.

That's funny. Everyone says it's easy until they do it. Most of them do take care of their bodies. When you invent a way to "take care of joints" from taking a beating when walking for 15km per day with 40 lbs on your shoulders, for 30 years, every day, you be sure to make some money off your idea.

And we are fine with what we signed up for. It's when they take away what we signed up for that is the issue.

[burnin_vernon]

Originally Posted by 4X4

What's the difference between a letter carrier's daily logged kilometers and any other job in a stockyard or a large shop where people have to walk back and forth with tools and things like that?
Sorry, letter carriers, your job is no harder than any other job. Cry me a river over your 15km per day; I bet I walked that much per shift back when I worked at a gas station, and I endured the same weather, for more like $6/hour, though I'm sure they're making twice that by now.

Did you honestly just compare the walking a letter carrier does to that of a gas station attendant? Wow.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by burnin_vernon

Did you honestly just compare the walking a letter carrier does to that of a gas station attendant? Wow.

Yes, I did. I also compared it to working in a yard or a shop. My point is that letter carriers don't walk any more than a lot of other jobs, so I don't understand the emphasis placed on it.

[WilsonFourTwo]

Originally Posted by Zevo

The average doctor also makes 200,000+ a year, and that's just a GP. If they specialize, they make 500,000+ a year. That aleviates a lot of stress.

That's well outside the point. Mean Mister Mustard is adamant that postal workers need the sick days because of a the difficult and stressful conditions, not the pay they receive. Pay has nothing to do with it.

[Zevo]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

My sister is in the later category, with the outrageous hours, giving up huge chunks of her life due to rotations and on calls, the fact that she is dealing with sick and dying patients all of the time where there is nothing that she can do but watch them go through the process of dying.

She's under a daunting and incredible workload with tremendous stress thrown in.

Put into that the fact that she has to research and publish on top of her normal work and its not much of a life.

The doctor my wife works for billed close to a million dollars last year.

What with the 4-5 weeks he takes off every summer, the two week vacations every christmas, the big house, fancy boat...must be hell.

Oh, and he works monday to friday.

And yes I do know it's 12 years of schooling before someone brings it up.

Not saying doctors have it easy or that it's a cake walk, but it's apples and oranges comparing doctors to mail carriers as one poster did, which is how this all got brought up.

[Zevo]

Originally Posted by WilsonFourTwo

That's well outside the point. Mean Mister Mustard is adamant that postal workers need the sick days because of a the difficult and stressful conditions, not the pay they receive. Pay has nothing to do with it.

Posted before I saw this. I don't necassarily agree with MMM, just pointing out that comparig that with doctors is apples to oranges.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Zevo

The doctor my wife works for billed close to a million dollars last year.

What with the 4-5 weeks he takes off every summer, the two week vacations every christmas, the big house, fancy boat...must be hell.

Oh, and he works monday to friday.

And yes I do know it's 12 years of schooling before someone brings it up.

Not saying doctors have it easy or that it's a cake walk, but it's apples and oranges comparing doctors to mail carriers as one poster did, which is how this all got brought up.

You're right it is apples and oranges.

Being a doctor is a million times harder and if they don't need 23 sick days then neither do postal workers.

Nobody in any industry needs 23 sick days a year.

Everyone who doesn't have their head up their ass knows that any union job with mandated sick days really just means extra vacation days. Why pretend otherwise?

Does anyone actually think postal workers get sick more than anyone else? Or have that stressful of jobs?