06-07-2011, 10:55 AM
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It’s official: Mayweather announces september fight with victor ortiz
I dont see it any where but please correct me if I am wrong.
After turning down 65 mill to fight Pacquiao he has signed for a sept fight
As we all know, the Manny Pacquiao vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr. fight is not happening, Pacquiao has a fight lined up with his longtime nemesis Juan Manuel Marquez for November of 2011 but Floyd Mayweather officially announced his comeback today via his Twitter account.
Floyd “Money” Mayweather announced on his Twitter account Tuesday, June 7, 2011 that he will fight tough WBC welterweight champion “Vicious” Victor Ortiz on September 17th.
“My fans have been waiting long enough. Floyd Mayweather vs Victor Ortiz. Sept-17 2011 for the WBC World Championship.” @FloydMayweather
This will be Floyd Mayweather’s first fight in 2011 since taking some time off from boxing after his win over Sugar Shane Mosley on May 1, 2010.
Victor Ortiz defeated Andre Berto for the WBC welterweight title in an exciting action packed fight. Ortiz will be a tough challenge for Mayweather. Like Manny Pacquiao, Ortiz is a southpaw with punching power and in his fight with Andre Berto, he showed that he can be aggressive and press the fight.
At 34-years-old, Floyd Mayweather will be giving up 10 years in age to the 24-year old champion Victor Ortiz.
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06-07-2011, 10:58 AM
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Floyd also denies that he was ever offered 65 mill for a Pacquiao fight!!
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06-07-2011, 12:26 PM
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It's too bad the guy is too scared to fight Pacquiao. That would be an awesome match to watch.
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06-07-2011, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by The Yen Man
It's too bad the guy is too scared to fight Pacquiao. That would be an awesome match to watch.
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I don't think he is scared. He started requiring his opponents to follow the USADA protocol in a few fights before Pacqiao and him were talking. Why won't Manny agree to the same protocol that Mosley and Ortiz had no hesitation agreeing to when they fought/are fighting Mayweather?
I also give Mayweather credit for fighting young rising stars instead of retreads and has-beens.
Last edited by FlamingLonghorn; 06-07-2011 at 01:45 PM.
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06-07-2011, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Sowa
I don't think he is scared. He started requiring his opponents to follow the USADA protocol in a few fights before Pacqiao and him were talking. Why won't Manny agree to the same protocol that Mosley and Ortiz had no hesitation agreeing to when they fought/are fighting Mayweather?
I also give Mayweather credit for fighting young rising stars instead of retreads and has-beens.
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Mayweather has no interest in fighting Pacquiao and has done everything he can to make it look like he's not simply ducking the fight, when that's exactly what he's doing.
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06-07-2011, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by valo403
Mayweather has no interest in fighting Pacquiao and has done everything he can to make it look like he's not simply ducking the fight, when that's exactly what he's doing.
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Maybe he is, but I don't understand why Pacquiao won't agree to the drug testing protocol? Don't give me the excuse that it's going to make him weaker to draw blood before the fight. Mayweather would do the same thing. Although, I guess Pacquiao isn't the brightest person, wanting to ban condoms in his homeland, but that is a weak excuse.
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06-07-2011, 03:10 PM
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Last I've heard that Pacquiao has basically agreed to everything Mayweather asked for testing. Mayweather next excuse that he wanted a break from boxing.
I could be wrong though.
I really think Mayweather has too much pride to suffer a loss on his record, rather than get a huge pay cheque.
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06-07-2011, 03:15 PM
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I honestly thing we will see the mega fight after the both fight in september (assuming they both win)
Floyd is always talking about how he knows he can get more money for this fight. No one ever thought it would reach 50 mill and as it sits today both fighters have been offered well over 50 mill. Floyd talks about hitting the 100 mill point. There are billionaires in different parts of the world all trying to put it on. If they come together and increase the purse then I think we might just see it happen.
I know its greed but if Floyd is going to risk a loss to Manny then he will want to suffer the following years with a ridiculous amount of money.
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06-07-2011, 09:15 PM
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This should be pretty interesting. A 19 month layoff for Mayweather and he's not exactly taking an easy fight. I do want to see him fight Manny, but I don't think that we'll ever see it.
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06-09-2011, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by kdogg
Last I've heard that Pacquiao has basically agreed to everything Mayweather asked for testing. Mayweather next excuse that he wanted a break from boxing.
I could be wrong though.
I really think Mayweather has too much pride to suffer a loss on his record, rather than get a huge pay cheque.
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that is completely true. Besides Pacquiao-Mayweather would be totally boring. Floyd Burrows would run away faster than Usain Bolt from the pacman.
I also hope that Pacquiao never fights him so Mayweather can't get his payday.
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06-09-2011, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Sowa
I don't think he is scared. He started requiring his opponents to follow the USADA protocol in a few fights before Pacqiao and him were talking. Why won't Manny agree to the same protocol that Mosley and Ortiz had no hesitation agreeing to when they fought/are fighting Mayweather?
I also give Mayweather credit for fighting young rising stars instead of retreads and has-beens.
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One of the main criticisms for Mayweather's record is because he fights has-beens and no name guys to protect his 0 losses record.
And yes, Pacquiao agreed to the drug thing, and then Mayweather makes up another excuse to avoid the fight. The guy is too scared of tarnishing his inflated 0 losses record to risk losing to Pacquiao.
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06-09-2011, 02:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sowa
I don't think he is scared. He started requiring his opponents to follow the USADA protocol in a few fights before Pacqiao and him were talking. Why won't Manny agree to the same protocol that Mosley and Ortiz had no hesitation agreeing to when they fought/are fighting Mayweather?
I also give Mayweather credit for fighting young rising stars instead of retreads and has-beens.
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that couldn't be further from the truth.
He has fought 2 young rising stars in his 41 fights! Ricky Hatton and Diego Morales.
Also he was scared of hell of Cotto and wouldn't even go into negotiations with him.
and we all know what Pacquaio did to Hatton and Cotto.
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06-09-2011, 02:53 PM
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I thought this was interesting about Pacquio's last fight.
http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slu...y_vegas_050911
Mosley was the second of Pacquiao’s last three opponents to enter the ring and not even attempt to win. Fourteen months ago Joshua Clottey covered up for 12 rounds. Even after he was shut out on the scorecard, Clottey lifted his arms in triumph and posed for pictures with his team. The goal was to survive, not actually box.
Before you blame Clottey and Mosley, consider what happened to the last several guys who decided to stand and trade with Manny:
Antonio Margarito, pummeled repeatedly, broken orbital bone, sent to hospital, career in jeopardy. Miguel Cotto, pummeled repeatedly, TKO’d, sent to hospital. Ricky Hatton, knocked out cold, sent to hospital, hasn’t fought since. Oscar De La Hoya, pummeled repeatedly, TKO’d, sent to hospital, hasn’t fought since. David Diaz, pummeled repeatedly, TKO’d, sent to hospital.
Mayweather is scared. I think people look at his career now and say, he may have a perfect record, but he was too scared to fight Pacquiao.
Last edited by kdogg; 06-09-2011 at 02:57 PM.
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06-09-2011, 03:37 PM
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Well in the shobox 360 aftermath it showed Mosely in between rounds pleading with his corner to stop the fight! hahahaha
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06-09-2011, 04:19 PM
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I don't know that Mayweather is scared. 1-2 years ago I read some boxing experts to say that Mayweather would beat Manny. Now, he is 34.
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06-09-2011, 04:51 PM
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As good as Pac-Man is, he has never fought anybody on Mayweather's level.
Pacquiao has fought a lot of slower, stronger fighters recently and those guys are good matches for him because he is much faster and they can't match his speed and power.
Pacquiao has been really good at picking his fights recently and once again picked an aging opponent for his next fight with Marquez.
A fighter with whom he drew his first fight, won the second by split decision, and then would not give him another shot even though Marquez camp pleaded with him.
Since his rise to elite status Pacquiao has been just as selective with whom he fights as Mayweather and he even declined to give the one man who gave him a good battle a rematch for no good reason.
I think Mayweather would be a good match for Pacquiao because much like Marquez, Floyd is a patient, counter puncher with the speed and agility to dance around the ring with Pacquiao.
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06-10-2011, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
As good as Pac-Man is, he has never fought anybody on Mayweather's level.
Pacquiao has fought a lot of slower, stronger fighters recently and those guys are good matches for him because he is much faster and they can't match his speed and power.
Pacquiao has been really good at picking his fights recently and once again picked an aging opponent for his next fight with Marquez.
A fighter with whom he drew his first fight, won the second by split decision, and then would not give him another shot even though Marquez camp pleaded with him.
Since his rise to elite status Pacquiao has been just as selective with whom he fights as Mayweather and he even declined to give the one man who gave him a good battle a rematch for no good reason.
I think Mayweather would be a good match for Pacquiao because much like Marquez, Floyd is a patient, counter puncher with the speed and agility to dance around the ring with Pacquiao.
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As good as Mayweather is and it's all defense who the hell has he fought as good as Pacquiao. NOBODY because he picks and chooses his opponents more. Has Pretty Ugly ever fought anyone bigger than him, even if he picks and chooses? yeah one. Dela Hoya.
Pacman can only chase someone so far if they dont' want to fight like Clottey and Mosely.
The first straight left that Mayweather eats he will be scared and will be on his bicycle all nite.
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06-10-2011, 01:17 PM
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I'm not doubting Mayweather's good, because he is. The guy's defence is second to none. But I wish he had more guts and didn't care about his inflated record. The Mayweather / Pacquaio fight has so many interesting questions. How will Mayweather's defence hold up against the ferocious punching power of Paquiao. Can the fact that Pacquaio punches from all angles get through, or is Mayweather going to prove his defence is just too strong? I hate pretty boy Floyd because he just won't man up and give us boxing fans what we want to see. (in my case, seeing PBF knocked out lol)
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06-10-2011, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bertuzzied
As good as Mayweather is and it's all defense who the hell has he fought as good as Pacquiao. NOBODY because he picks and chooses his opponents more. Has Pretty Ugly ever fought anyone bigger than him, even if he picks and chooses? yeah one. Dela Hoya.
Pacman can only chase someone so far if they dont' want to fight like Clottey and Mosely.
The first straight left that Mayweather eats he will be scared and will be on his bicycle all nite.
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I really don't agree with this.
Both fighters used to fight everybody, but once they became the "Pound for Pound kings" both fighters started picking and choosing whom they fought.
Pacquiao fought Mosely, Cotto, Margarito, and Clottey when all of them were way past their prime, and he knew he could beat all of them handedly.
At least Mayweather is fighting a tough, young, matchup in his return to the ring after 16 months.
Unlike Pacquiao who is once again searching the retirement scraps to fight Marquez (a fighter whom I mentioned Pacquaio dodged after beating in a tough split decision, after drawing his first fight with him.)
Why didn't Pacquiao give him the rematch everybody wanted to see three years ago after he won that close decision, was it because he was afraid of Marquez.
Even some boxing analysts are getting on Pac-Man for not giving a shot to any young fighters. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/mo...g_manny_p.html
I am actually a fan of both fighters but I just hate how Pacquiao gets treated like he is some god, and Mayweather gets thrown under the bus. It is just as much Pacquiao's fault this fight is not happening as it is Mayweather's.
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06-10-2011, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
I really don't agree with this.
Both fighters used to fight everybody, but once they became the "Pound for Pound kings" both fighters started picking and choosing whom they fought.
Pacquiao fought Mosely, Cotto, Margarito, and Clottey when all of them were way past their prime, and he knew he could beat all of them handedly.
At least Mayweather is fighting a tough, young, matchup in his return to the ring after 16 months.
Unlike Pacquiao who is once again searching the retirement scraps to fight Marquez (a fighter whom I mentioned Pacquaio dodged after beating in a tough split decision, after drawing his first fight with him.)
Why didn't Pacquiao give him the rematch everybody wanted to see three years ago after he won that close decision, was it because he was afraid of Marquez.
Even some boxing analysts are getting on Pac-Man for not giving a shot to any young fighters. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/mo...g_manny_p.html
I am actually a fan of both fighters but I just hate how Pacquiao gets treated like he is some god, and Mayweather gets thrown under the bus. It is just as much Pacquiao's fault this fight is not happening as it is Mayweather's.
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Mayweather gets thrown under the bus because he's a little bitch and his fighting style is boring as hell to watch.
Mayweather has not fought anyone. Boxing promoters just want you to think that. Go look at his fights! hahaha it's completely laughable to see who he has fought for him to be lb for lb champ. Pull me 5 names that is considered "great".
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=352&cat=boxer
He has never fought anyone bigger than him, unlike Pacquiao who had to keep moving up in weight. Also people seem to forget he destroyed Marco Antonio Barrera when he was the lb for lb king after beating Morales and Prince Naheem.
Mayweather's lb for lb title was based on his more on his potential and how he would do against other great fighters, but he never fought any of them. But he was too chicken to fight Cotto.
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