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Jables16 · 06-04-2011, 01:08 PM

I (like many other I'm sure) don't get the chance to see quite as much of the Flames prospects as I'd like to and with all the talk about the dearth of talent in the Flames system I'd kind of like to know what would be the best case scenario with the players we have.

For example if say Leland Irving reaches his expected potential of being a #1 goalie for the Flames, what sort of former or current NHL goalie could he be compared to?

sworkhard · 06-04-2011, 01:26 PM

Greg Nemisz has been compared to Mike Knuble before.

Jables16 · 06-04-2011, 11:47 PM

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Greg Nemisz has been compared to Mike Knuble before.

From what I'd seen of him I was hoping there might be Jason Arnott type potential from Nemisz but Knuble is pretty much steady as she goes, we could definitely do a lot worse.

FlamesAddiction · 06-06-2011, 09:42 AM

Nemisz is already a better skater than Knuble.

I'm not sure if Nemisz has the crease insticts that Knuble has, or the booming shot that Arnott has.

From the limited times I have seen Nemisz, I thought he actually reminded me a bit of Craig Conroy.

kirant · 06-06-2011, 10:07 AM

Ones I see:
- Brodie: Marc-Andre Bergeron with a little more defensive reliability. Brodie seems like he'll make the NHL based on his passing/shooting, but may crack above the 3rd pairing if he can play his end better. An alternative definition would be a weaker Brian Campbell (which may work better, but I don't like the idea of saying worse overall Brian Campbell)
- Irving: Jonas Hiller. He's a goalie who seems to rely on keeping his style in line with the puck. If that starts to go, he'll eventually give up a goal. Hiller is very much the same way, being a great "1st save" goalie, but can't keep up continual pressure unless he can reset his positioning.

dissentowner · 06-06-2011, 05:56 PM

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Greg Nemisz has been compared to Mike Knuble before.

I don't see Nemisz ever being as good as Knuble. I was not happy when we drafted him, have never been a fan of his game. I thought he was disappointing for the Canada juniors and really have not seen anything since to suggest he will be anything more than a 3rd/4th liner.

DropIt · 06-06-2011, 07:40 PM

Actually, I see Neimsz's compareable being fellow Flames David Moss, with better hands in tight. But he has been noted as having good net-front presence and having the hands to pot 20 each year.

8sPOT · 06-06-2011, 08:06 PM

I think Moss is at least twice as fast as Nemisz. Lack of speed and agility are going to hamper any chance of Nemisz becoming an impact player IMO.

Ring of Fire · 06-06-2011, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kirant

Ones I see:
- Brodie: Marc-Andre Bergeron with a little more defensive reliability. Brodie seems like he'll make the NHL based on his passing/shooting, but may crack above the 3rd pairing if he can play his end better. An alternative definition would be a weaker Brian Campbell (which may work better, but I don't like the idea of saying worse overall Brian Campbell)
- Irving: Jonas Hiller. He's a goalie who seems to rely on keeping his style in line with the puck. If that starts to go, he'll eventually give up a goal. Hiller is very much the same way, being a great "1st save" goalie, but can't keep up continual pressure unless he can reset his positioning.

I actually think Brian Campbell is a good comparison to TJ Brodie. Both players skate very well and like to rush the puck. From what I've seen Brodie has a similar skating style and shot style as Campbell and they play similar styles. I think Campbell is a more physical player, but offensively Brodie has potential to be similar. Brodie and Campbell are of similar size and build and Brodie has had similar numbers to Campbell's career numbers in 4 years of OHL and first year of pro in the AHL.

Brian Campbell
http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/...layer.cgi?1206
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=24075

TJ Brodie
http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/...layer.cgi?6626
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=96809

EVERLAST · 06-06-2011, 09:29 PM

Max Reinhart.....just thinking about the possibilities of what he'll offer down the road

HighLifeMan · 06-06-2011, 09:48 PM

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Max Reinhart.....just thinking about the possibilities of what he'll offer down the road

He reminds me of Joe Pavelski.

DropIt · 06-08-2011, 06:54 PM

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Max Reinhart.....just thinking about the possibilities of what he'll offer down the road

Malholtra

kirant · 06-08-2011, 10:14 PM

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Malholtra

I honestly see a 2nd line Tomas Plekanec. Same less physical, but skilled two-way type of player.

Johnny Rotten · 06-09-2011, 06:10 AM

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I honestly see a 2nd line Tomas Plekanec. Same less physical, but skilled two-way type of player.

Langkow?

Otherwise, I'd take Plekanec or Palveski... Even Max's dad played a little bit of centre also and was pretty good there too.

kirant · 06-09-2011, 07:51 AM

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Langkow?

Otherwise, I'd take Plekanec or Palveski... Even Max's dad played a little bit of centre also and was pretty good there too.

Both are pretty good comparisons. I went with Plekanec because Reinhart is a little more consistent in points (on a game to game basis. Langkow is damn near perfect for consistency on a season to season measurement).

Pierre "Monster" McGuire · 06-10-2011, 01:23 AM

I just thought about it today and I think Nemisz is best compared to Joe Thornton. He's strong, but not overly physical. In other words, his hands are his greatest asset, not his physicality.

Can't wait to watch Nemisz some more this upcoming season. He's just a fun player to watch because he is such an impact player on the Heat.

dissentowner · 06-13-2011, 01:03 PM

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kirant · 06-13-2011, 01:07 PM

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I have to agree to an extent. Nemisz's offensive abilities are nowhere near Thorntons and will likely pan out to a helpful, but not key, two-way forward ala Backlund. They're both capable of putting up points...just not be the star (Backlund's cap I think is 65-70 and Nemisz is 40-50).

Parallex · 06-13-2011, 01:28 PM

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I honestly see a 2nd line Tomas Plekanec.

That's who his coach compared him to actually... strikes me as a decent comparable. Wahl reminds me a bit of Craig Conroy (unflashy, smart two-way centre that's great on a lower line but can fill in on a higher one in a pinch), Nemisz... at one point I would have said Knuble but lately I'm more thinking Moss (Big frame garbage goal collecting type on a third line).

Nemisz/Breen · 06-13-2011, 02:10 PM

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