05-19-2011, 08:47 PM
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#341
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Originally Posted by evman150
I'm surprised your two-bit community college doesn't allow you to reference the back of a froot loops box.
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Good one. Maturity, it shows. Some people can have a conversation, others thrive on be-littling others.
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05-19-2011, 08:47 PM
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#342
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Originally Posted by flames85
Religion or God? Because i believe in God but not religion. There is a huge misconception out there, combining the two.
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which is exactly why I worded it the way I did
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05-19-2011, 08:47 PM
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#343
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by longsuffering
You know that's false, so I guess that makes you the liar.
As you well know, I was simply trying to show you how ridiculous your 'no harm, no foul' argument is, and apparently I've succeeded, because this seems to be one of the very few times you're lost for words.
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No..not false...you edited it...for everyone to see.
Liar.
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05-19-2011, 08:48 PM
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#344
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Has lived the dream!
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Where I lay my head is home...
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Originally Posted by flames85
I'd rather believe in something than nothing at all  |
That didn't really have much to do with what I said, OR my viewpoints as an individual, but good reply?
All I'm saying is your deflection and dismission of wikipedia is absolutely hilarious given some of the other facts and sources you have brought up, which you should realize, are just as fallible, if not absolutely MORE FALLIBLE than wikipedia.
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05-19-2011, 08:48 PM
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#345
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God of Hating Twitter
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Originally Posted by flames85
I'd rather believe in something than nothing at all |
Wait, there are people who believe in nothing at all?
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05-19-2011, 08:49 PM
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#346
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by flames85
What is the definition of "Fact"? Does it only have to come from a credible source? Or can anyone write it? Does it have to physically be viewed?
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Do you know how the process of science works? (Honest, not rhetorical question)
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Originally Posted by flames85
I'd rather believe in something than nothing at all |
This is a demeaning quip and beneath you I think, no one believes in nothing at all, not even solipsists.
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05-19-2011, 08:49 PM
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#347
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Originally Posted by Thor
Wait, there are people who believe in nothing at all?
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pretty much nihilism. And I can say that after intensely studying relativity, quantum mechanics and string theory I believe in nothing, specifically I think nothing exists and I'm not the only one who thinks so. Quantum gravity will eventually prove not only that there is no god, but there is no anything.
Last edited by robocop; 05-19-2011 at 08:51 PM.
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05-19-2011, 08:49 PM
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#348
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Originally Posted by Kybosh
I'm not sure what you're getting at. Do you think that the only way a person can know something as fact is to have personally conducted all the primary research themselves? My stars, humanity would still be struggling in the pursuit of fire if this was the case.
What does college have to say on the matter?
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No i was seriously asking, what do some people consider "fact"? Because it seems like to some they need to see it physically to believe its fact. I wasn't insinuating anything more. It was in response to all the proof everyone was getting me, my point was just because there is no physical proof doesn't mean you can't believe.
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05-19-2011, 08:50 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Richmond, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flames85
Good one. Maturity, it shows. Some people can have a conversation, others thrive on be-littling others.
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Not much else is left after you go the obfuscatory/epistemically nihilistic route.
Ripping on wikipedia is the last outpost of the hopelessly outwitted.
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05-19-2011, 08:51 PM
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#350
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by transplant99
No..not false...you edited it...for everyone to see.
Liar.
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I'm not sure anyone agrees with you, but that's standard I suppose.
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05-19-2011, 08:51 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: YSJ (1979-2002) -> YYC (2002-2022) -> YVR (2022-present)
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Originally Posted by Thor
Wait, there are people who believe in nothing at all?
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Nihilists.
Say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, but at least it's an ethos.
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05-19-2011, 08:51 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Easter back on in Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flames85
This is your fact? Really?
Ever been to college/university? wikipedia isn't an acceptable reference, as anyone can edit it. Some real facts please!
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What kind of facts would be suitable then? A time machine?
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05-19-2011, 08:52 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by longsuffering
I'm not sure anyone agrees with you, but that's standard I suppose.
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Are you claiming you didn't edit your post where you initially intentionally misquoted transplant99 to make a point?
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05-19-2011, 08:52 PM
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Has lived the dream!
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Where I lay my head is home...
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Originally Posted by flames85
my point was just because there is no physical proof doesn't mean you can't believe.
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That is true, you can believe. But it doesn't make it fact. Not even close. History is full of examples of well meaning people getting things wrong when they don't use process to prove it.
I would wager that most people on this board would cite fact as something that can be proven in a repeatable experiment, or conclusively mathematically.
That would obviously include a lot of things people can't touch, see, or that the regular Joe 6 Pack doesn't even think about or interact with on a daily basis.
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05-19-2011, 08:53 PM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by longsuffering
I'm not sure anyone agrees with you, but that's standard I suppose.
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Agree or not...you are still a liar.
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05-19-2011, 08:53 PM
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#356
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Agree or not...you are still a liar.
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Well technically so are you
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05-19-2011, 08:53 PM
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#357
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Originally Posted by puckluck
What kind of facts would be suitable then? A time machine?
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it seems to some yes.
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05-19-2011, 08:54 PM
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#358
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Creston
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Originally Posted by MarchHare
He's right that Wikipedia should not be cited as a source in an academic paper, but most reasonable people will agree that it's "good enough" for an informal internet discussion.
I'm convinced he must be trolling us if his counter-argument is to attack the credibility of Wikipedia as a source of info.
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This conversation isn't staffed with "reasonable people" or else nobody would care if someone wanted to pray in a public ceremony.
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05-19-2011, 08:55 PM
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#359
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by robocop
Well technically so are you
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Really? Show me where....and right now please.
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05-19-2011, 08:55 PM
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#360
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Really? Show me where....and right now please.
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so you're saying you've never lied in you're entire life? you're making it seem like a human being lying is a revolution, get over it. I don't know a single human being who isn't a liar
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Originally Posted by Calgaryborn
This conversation isn't staffed with "reasonable people" or else nobody would care if someone wanted to pray in a public ceremony.
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you really think that's why people hate religion? You can't be that uneducated can you?
Last edited by robocop; 05-19-2011 at 08:58 PM.
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