Beloved character actor Osama bin Laden, star of TV's "Fox News", dies age 54

[transplant99]

Not really sure what some testimony about something else has to do with ...well...anything.

however, is it your assertion that all footage of palestinians, or anyone else for that matter, celebrating in the streets that day....is fake?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

I don't know how many people have questions about Osama's death but, I bet it is a lot smaller than those who questioned Obama's birth place. Al-Qaida has confirmed Osama's death today. That should shrink those who doubt his death even more.

There are no stupid questions; only stupid answers.

And that in and of itself is just sad.

As for Napolitano...once you hitch your wagon to the Fox news channel, well you truly sink your ability to be viewed as anything than a bit whacky. Rightly or wrongly, that "news" channel has isolated itself because of the pure and utter nonsense it espouses on a regular basis. They are there for one reason and one reason only...as a propoganda machine for the right wing faithful. Nothing wrong with that by the way, but it is what it is. Preaching to the faithful can be extremely profitable.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by transplant99

And that in and of itself is just sad.

As for Napolitano...once you hitch your wagon to the Fox news channel, well you truly sink your ability to be viewed as anything than a bit whacky. Rightly or wrongly, that "news" channel has isolated itself because of the pure and utter nonsense it espouses on a regular basis. They are there for one reason and one reason only...as a propoganda machine for the right wing faithful. Nothing wrong with that by the way, but it is what it is. Preaching to the faithful can be extremely profitable.

###! Wow, that's banned? I've been away too long. What I meant was... Quoted... For... Truth...

[Canada 02]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Al-Qaida has confirmed Osama's death today. That should shrink those who doubt his death even more.

sad that some would take the word of Al-Qaeda over that of the President

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Not really sure what some testimony about something else has to do with ...well...anything.

however, is it your assertion that all footage of palestinians, or anyone else for that matter, celebrating in the streets that day....is fake?

Some testimony from the same people benefiting and with the same agenda.

I'd say it.....is iffy.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Some testimony from the same people benefiting and with the same agenda.

I'd say it.....is iffy.

What is the point you are trying to make?

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

I wouldn't take anything CNN says too seriously. They were just trying to take a shot at Fox which seems to be something they do more often than reporting news.

Judge Napolitano is new to Fox news. He came over from Fox radio where he had a successful talk show in the morning. He is noted for thinking out of the box and asking lots questions. I think he will be a refreshing addition to their station. He doesn't march in lock step with Republican party position and is a pretty good debater. I doubt that he really believes
that Osama is still alive and probably was just asking his guest what they thought about the question. I can see CNN seeing him asking the question as enough to label him. He never believed that Obama was born out of country.

I'm personally more concerned with folks dumping on anybody who dares have a question. That isn't healthy for our society. Sure people can take things too far but, that is better than blind trust. Both Canada and the USA have governments who are generally trustworthy but, that doesn't mean we shouldn't ask questions.

According to the article only 3% of the population still believe that Obama was born out of country. That's a drop of what 30% after Obama produced the long form birth certificate. There's proof right there that people will change their opinion if given enough facts.

I don't know how many people have questions about Osama's death but, I bet it is a lot smaller than those who questioned Obama's birth place. Al-Qaida has confirmed Osama's death today. That should shrink those who doubt his death even more.

There are no stupid questions; only stupid answers.

What a chap like you takes seriously is far more interesting than the advice you're giving others about what not to take seriously.

Coincidentally, The New York Times Weekly Review on Conspiracy Theories . . .

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/01/we....html?_r=1&hpw

Cowperson

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Some testimony from the same people benefiting and with the same agenda.

I'd say it.....is iffy.

Honestly I think I am missing what you are saying...what same people with what agenda?

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

What a chap like you takes seriously is far more interesting than the advice you're giving others about what not to take seriously.

Coincidentally, The New York Times Weekly Review on Conspiracy Theories . . .

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/01/we....html?_r=1&hpw

Cowperson

Wow! First CNN and now the NYT. Here is a link that shows the decline in birthers:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...a-born-abroad/

[troutman]

Michael Moore (I know, I know) said it was "un-American" to kill Bin Laden without a trial. Nazis were given trials. Does he make a good point?

Perhaps they did intend to capture him alive, until they met resistance.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by Daradon

Ok, are you born of the unwed union of a troglodyte and a mother with at least 60 intelligence?

It pertains to this discussion.

No. But if it was reported as such or at least implied by a couple different sources it would be a fair question to ask. Furthermore, if my hiding that information might benefit me in that it was necessary to gain the most powerful position in the world it might be reasonable for me to lie. I might even be seen as a probable liar if I consealed proof that I coukld easily provide that would settle the matter for almost everybody.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

No. But if it was reported as such or at least implied by a couple different sources it would be a fair question to ask. Furthermore, if my hiding that information might benefit me in that it was necessary to gain the most powerful position in the world it might be reasonable for me to lie. I might even be seen as a probable liar if I consealed proof that I coukld easily provide that would settle the matter for almost everybody.

I won't even imply it, I'll flat out say it. I think you were born of the unwed union of a troglodyte and a mother with at least 60 intelligence.

So that makes a couple of sources. Therefore that's now a fair question.

Your logic is absurd.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by troutman

Michael Moore (I know, I know) said it was "un-American" to kill Bin Laden without a trial. Nazis were given trials. Does he make a good point?

Perhaps they did intend to capture him alive, until they met resistance.

He has a point only if Osama surrendered. If he was fighting or running he was fair game. We will never know.

[tjinaz]

Actually they weren't celebrating 9/11. The video was from some mideast wedding celebration that our news put on TV, to get us ready for war. Now do you feel manipulated?

Never said which site or if I saw images of people celebrating 9/11. But when I read stories from several news sources saying it did happen, I am inclined to believe there were celebrations in Arab countries when this occurred.

No I am not feeling manipulated.

The irony of all this is if this would have happened under Bush all the democrats would be asking for all these things. Since it happened with Obama as President they are silent. The silence of the left is deafening. All the promises about closing Gitmo and condemning awful enhanced interrogation techniques that got the intelligence that led to this is a bitter pill and shows the naivete of Obama the candidate. That is garbage

The edge of the far left (Moore) is already coming out with just what I described, I believe you would see a lot more of this from the mainstream left if Bush or McCain ordered the mission. They are holding their tongues as it was one of their own that is on the hook for the kill order and there is no political benefit in questioning your benefactor.

[Ozy_Flame]

I am of the belief that bin Laden was armed when he was shot. There is just too much opportunity for the U.S. to keep him alive with what he knows and the importance he would have had. On the flip side, his wife that was there was there and used as a human shield was not killed, which makes me can't help but think that there actually might have been a "kill on sight" policy for bin Laden specifically.

I'm confushed.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Honestly I think I am missing what you are saying...what same people with what agenda?

Same country who wants war, same Republican Party, same Presidential name, same people who will profit from war (over used but still true, the military industrial complex).

[valo403]

Originally Posted by tjinaz

The edge of the far left (Moore) is already coming out with just what I described, I believe you would see a lot more of this from the mainstream left if Bush or McCain ordered the mission. They are holding their tongues as it was one of their own that is on the hook for the kill order and there is no political benefit in questioning your benefactor.

I said it before and I'll say it again, that's pure garbage. It's trash like this that is such a huge problem in this country. Everything is used to point fingers or win some sort of imaginary points, it's downright pathetic.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Same country who wants war, same Republican Party, same Presidential name, same people who will profit from war (over used but still true, the military industrial complex).

You're going to need to draw me a line, a clear line because you've managed to post about 6 times and say absolutely nothing.

[BigBrodieFan]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

I am of the belief that bin Laden was armed when he was shot. There is just too much opportunity for the U.S. to keep him alive with what he knows and the importance he would have had. On the flip side, his wife that was there was there and used as a human shield was not killed, which makes me can't help but think that there actually might have been a "kill on sight" policy for bin Laden specifically.

I'm confushed.

The White House said he was not armed and he did not use any woman as a human shield, contrary to the first account of the events. They say he 'resisted.' I am not quite sure what that means.

I don't think that keeping him alive would be beneficial in any circumstance.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

The White House said he was not armed and he did not use any woman as a human shield, contrary to the first account of the events. They say he 'resisted.' I am not quite sure what that means.

I don't think that keeping him alive would be beneficial in any circumstance.

I think keeping him alive could have been highly beneficial from an intelligence perspective, the guy obviously would have had a lot to spill if you could have gotten it out of him. At the same time, this wasn't a few local cops breaking up a loud party. The notion that they could go in there and just slap some cuffs on him is pretty outlandish.