Music "Discussion" Derail from Funny Pic Thread

[peter12]

Generally, not a fan of Nirvana, but I wouldn't say they "sucked" or were "overrated."

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

Who do you listen to?

Much better singers and rap arteests.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Until Nirvana, I enjoyed music. Nirvana and the ensuing proliferation of grunge and alternative in the 90s turned me off music completely for several years. Now music is my first love but I still look back at the 90s and cringe.

The majority of the mainstream music in the 90's was pretty poor, looking back.
During the 90's I have to admit that I followed along with whatever Tarzan Dan, and later, Much Music, was playing.

Now that I've grown to appreciate music, I can dig through plenty of bands/albums that were released in the 90's, and find plenty that was amazing, but was never popular.
The amount of 90's stuff I find appealing is dwarfed by releases from the 80's though.
I'm mostly talking about punk and power pop though.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by puckluck

Much better singers and rap arteests.

Ooookay. Who?

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by troutman

I would say "Pop" has at least two meanings.

Literally, what is "popular" - your top 40 hits. Ex. Lady Gaga

And as a "sound" - catchy, light, hook-laden music. Ex. XTC

Some bands fit both criteria.

http://www.allmusic.com/explore/styl...-pop-rock-d419

Pop/rock might seem like an overly vague designation -- after all, rock & roll was catchy and melodic long before it was thought of as pop music, and from the early '60s on, nearly all pop reflected the influence of rock & roll in one way or another. But pure pop took a while to become comfortable with rock's insistent backbeat, and it wasn't until the dawn of the '70s -- around the time when rock & roll's first-generation fans were settling into adulthood -- that truly equal pop/rock fusions became the epitome of mainstream music (as opposed to pre-rock vocal pop, which still commanded a sizable adult audience for most of the '60s). Naturally, pop/rock's primary focus was on melody -- as big, catchy, and instantly memorable as possible, whether the song was a rocker, ballad, or midtempo in-betweener. But the other, less immediately apparent aspect of pop/rock was its emphasis on the professional craft of record-making. The songs were tightly constructed, with no wasted space or prolonged detours from the melodic hooks. The production was clean, polished, and bright, making full use of the advances in recording technology (and technique) that had taken place over the course of the '60s. In general, pop/rock was catchy and energetic enough to appeal to younger listeners, but clean and safe enough for adults as well. Pop/rock, however, was not soft rock; it's important to realize -- hard as it may be to imagine today -- that the big hooks, rock instrumentation, and definite backbeat gave pop/rock an energy that would have been too edgy for more conservative listeners who hadn't grown up with rock & roll.

For me, pop has always been the "genre" and "sound". When Michael Jackson is referred to as the "King of Pop" it's referring to the genre and sound for me even though it was incidentally massively popular.

A lot of the stuff that tops charts, I couldn't possibly imagine being identified as pop even though they may be catchy or popular at the time.

A lot of this stuff is ambiguous and subjective as music always is and individual bands can never be totally classified in one genre or the other but certain songs do fall into more specific leanings than others.

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

Ooookay. Who?

Can't tell you, sorry.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

The majority of the mainstream music in the 90's was pretty poor, looking back.

Except for this:



Such a good freaking record, start to finish. I originally had this album on tape in my first car, and then it got stuck in the deck. So I listened to it non-stop in the car for about a year. Freaking love this album.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by puckluck

Can't tell you, sorry.

Thanks Sarah Palin.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by peter12

Generally, not a fan of Nirvana, but I wouldn't say they "sucked" or were "overrated."

Kurt wanted to make punk music. I think he felt like a hypocrite when Nevermind became mainstream. In Utero was his response - a more punk sounding record.

Teenage angst has paid off well
Now I'm bored and old


What else should I write
I don't have the right

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

Except for this:



Such a good freaking record, start to finish. I originally had this album on tape in my first car, and then it got stuck in the deck. So I listened to it non-stop in the car for about a year. Freaking love this album.

I'm not a fan of alternative but knowing that you appreciate a lot of music and are well versed in many things, I'll check it out. It's funny but I take music recommendations more seriously from some people more than others. When some of my friends recommend songs to me, I just roll my eyes knowing what they normally listen to. Then again, most of them roll their eyes back at me when I tell them what I like. It's just more to prove that music is subjective to each person's tastes and what they may associate with certain music.

For me, I hated the 90s. I loved high school and had a blast, but it was also in the time of that grunge culture and I hated the clothes and the music with a passion. For my friends, the music of the 90s reminds them of their teenage years and good times. For me, it just reminds me how horrible people (and myself) dressed and how much I hated the stuff on the radio and Much Music.

I associate much more with music from the 80s strangely because it's what I heard in my childhood and happy memories as I was practically raised by the television as I was an only child.

I still have that trouble as I hate most of the music I hear in clubs, etc. I had a great time going to a club in Montreal that had an 80s night once a week though. So much fun.

[troutman]

Pitchfork's Top 100 albums of the 1990s:

http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-...-of-the-1990s/

[Yasa]

You want 90's non-popular music? Listen to Pavement. I can't get enough of Pavement. Although, it's my understanding that many people don't like them. I'm fine with that.

[Mass_nerder]

Pitchfork is laughably pretentious, but I have to say that I own 7/10 of the top 10 albums from the 90s

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by Yasa

You want 90's non-popular music? Listen to Pavement. I can't get enough of Pavement. Although, it's my understanding that many people don't like them. I'm fine with that.

Malkmus rules!
He was really cool when he was in town with the Jicks a few years ago.

Every time I try to describe Pavement to someone, i always try to remind them of "cut Your Hair", because I'm sure almost everyone has heard it, but thought it was Weezer.

[Yasa]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

Malkmus rules!
He was really cool when he was in town with the Jicks a few years ago.

Every time I try to describe Pavement to someone, i always try to remind them of "cut Your Hair", because I'm sure almost everyone has heard it, but thought it was Weezer.

I'm sad I missed that show. A friend and I were discussing the greatness of Pavement when we went to the Pixies show.

Crap. I pretty much labeled myself as a "hipster" on this forum. Except I don't believe in subscribing to a label, so excuse me while I drink my pabst blue ribbon and clean my non-prescription glasses.

[burnin_vernon]

I loved 90s rock. Better than the 80s and much much better than the 2000s. I'm sure I can think of at least 30 bands from the 90s that released at least 2 solid albums. Once itunes became big, the focus turned to selling singles instead of albums.

Say what you will about Nirvana; at least they killed Poison and the like. Now if only someone can come kill TheoryofANickelFault.

[macker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXC1Zfupeaw Fly At Night


http://wearehunted.com/a/#/ Interesting site that I heard about on CBC 3.
Keeping it random.....does anyone know if the R3-30 is done? The show I heard a week or so ago was hinting at this that maybe they were only going to have a few more shows? Or is this Craig and Pedro creating interest? Heard this song on the countdown http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYL9NT_kucU Usually has a some decent songs....

[Mass_nerder]

I'm a bit of a hipster...
I collect vinyl, read Maximum RocknRoll and Razorcake, wear tight jeans and band shirts.

[Yasa]

Hipsters don't like sports. You'll be alright.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by macker

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXC1Zfupeaw Fly At Night


http://wearehunted.com/a/#/ Interesting site that I heard about on CBC 3.
Keeping it random.....does anyone know if the R3-30 is done? The show I heard a week or so ago was hinting at this that maybe they were only going to have a few more shows? Or is this Craig and Pedro creating interest? Heard this song on the countdown http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYL9NT_kucU Usually has a some decent songs....

I haven't heard any news about that.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2211393123&v=wall

http://radio3.cbc.ca/#/podcasts/CBC-...3-30-Chart-240

I like that Austra song very much too.