Beloved character actor Osama bin Laden, star of TV's "Fox News", dies age 54

[calculoso]

Originally Posted by MacGruber

calgary sun always has outrageous unprofessional banner headlines.

Same thing on the Toronto Sun


How about Philadelphia Daily News?


New York Daily News?


New York Post?


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[calculoso]

Originally Posted by chemgear

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Se...290/story.html

The mastermind of the September 11 attacks, who was interrogated using "torture" techniques, gave the United States the breakthrough that resulted in the killing of Osama bin Laden.

Very interesting...

U.S. spies learned his name four years ago; two years later they pinpointed the general region where he was hiding. In August, they tracked him to the Abbotabad compound.

[Yasa]

Originally Posted by Calgary Herald

...pinpointed the general region where he was hiding."

Hmm...that doesn't make much sense.

[Flabbibulin]

Originally Posted by pylon

Just when I think you couldn't possibly be any trashier a Newspaper, you go and do something like this…......


and totally redeem yourself!

I went through the pain of signing in on this stupid iphone just to thank this.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by Yasa

Hmm...that doesn't make much sense.

I read it in the paper today. They discovered OBL's courier's identity, then tracked him down to the area, then tracked him down to the house. The house was very suspicious, eventually they spotted OBL in the compound (via satellite), and then the plan was set in motion...

[underGRADFlame]

Possible pic of the body?

Link

[Yasa]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

I read it in the paper today. They discovered OBL's courier's identity, then tracked him down to the area, then tracked him down to the house. The house was very suspicious, eventually they spotted OBL in the compound (via satellite), and then the plan was set in motion...

I just meant the phrase didn't make sense. "Pinpoint" is an exact location, and "general" means broad. So...to find his exact broad location seems like a silly sentence.

[worth]

Looks consistent with what we've heard of him being shot above the left eye in the side of the head.

Also a pretty clear shot of a SEAL member...not sure the government will like that.

Would be pretty weird to have been one of these guys carrying his body.

But who knows if its real. Could easily be Photoshopped to match the description we've been hearing I'm sure.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by worth

Looks consistent with what we've heard of him being shot above the left eye in the side of the head.

Also a pretty clear shot of a SEAL member...not sure the government will like that.

Would be pretty weird to have been one of these guys carrying his body.

But who knows if its real. Could easily be Photoshopped to match the description we've been hearing I'm sure.

Man even in death OBL has that stupid grin. I just want to smack it off his face . . . Oh wait, the sharks are doing that for him

[PackersFan]

Originally Posted by HeartsOfFire

This violence won't be solved overnight, even with the death of bin Laden. It will take generations to weed out the hatred that he and his ilk have sewn in the idealistic, the ignorant, and the desperate. The traditional islamic rites and burial at sea show that even in the face of al-Qaeda's barbarism and inhuman methods, America refused to capitulate and stoop to the same level of barbarism. Very mature, very humbling, very honourable. It is what separates them from common thugs. When an oppressed civilian population gets caught between two factions, whom do you think they will run to for protection? The guys that have been spouting that America is evil and must be destroyed, the same guys that won't hesitate to grab you and put you between them and their guns? Or the guys you have been taught all your life are the enemy, who despite everything you've been told, refuse to fire upon anyone unarmed? You won't win any hearts of the enemy, but others caught between the two this and feel a pang of respect and appreciation that American's retained the dignity to give Osama the rites appropriate to his culture.

I agree, we have to stand up for ourselves, our people, and our beliefs. And among those beliefs is the cultural stigma that we don't use civilians as human shields, our women are equal in importance to men, and our soldiers to not desecrate the bodies of their enemies.

I'd like to add at this point that we all know perfectly well America's record isn't perfect. Civilian lives have been lost at their hands. Atrocities have been committed by both sides. Indeed, it's easy for me to sit safely and comfortably in my office chair and preach about honour, respect, and dignity when I have never seen a shred of military combat. Those values I preach offer little comfort to the soldiers that have had to witness their comrades in arms killed in combat, maimed by a roadside bomb, or executed in cold blood. We are all only human, and we are all weak. But this act, this ONE act of dignity and honour at the hands of the Americans is a BIG step towards setting things right.

Finally, the name eludes me at the moment, but one of our regular contributors has a signature: "Dear Lord, please help me be the person my dog thinks I am." Eloquent and appropriate in this situation, for the opposite is also true.
"Dear Lord, give me strength, courage and conviction, so that I may never become the man my enemies say I am."

Well said, and I partly agree with you on some points.

But...

Osama died as a martyr, and wasn't taken alive to become a prisoner - which he wanted all along, then, he gets an Islamic burial. Thats like having your cake and eating it too for the worlds most wanted man.

It was an insult to all those who lost their lives in the countless bombings of buildings, suicide bombers running into crowds, 9/11, etc. Osama showed them no respect, so why do we need to show him his one last honor? Yes I understand the argument that it may help curb the backlash by extremists, but I promise you that there was not one extremist who handed in his gun because of the respect the USA showed for their leader.

I see is as a slap in the face to everybody affected by 9/11. The dead, the families, the police, the firefighters.

We hear all the time that Islam is a peaceful religion. If that is the case, this man is not a muslim. HE IS A FLAT OUT MURDERER!!! You didn't see any Muslim nation asking for his body did you? NO! NO BODY WANTED HIM! Yes there are many reasons as to why, but the fact is that no Muslim nation wanted to bury him.

The fact is he is gone, but his terrorist group still lives on, and always will. Someone will take his place, and it probably has already happened.

I was just outraged to see they showed him such courtesy after he killed thousands of innocent people.

[Yasa]

Originally Posted by worth

Looks consistent with what we've heard of him being shot above the left eye in the side of the head.

Also a pretty clear shot of a SEAL member...not sure the government will like that.

Would be pretty weird to have been one of these guys carrying his body.

But who knows if its real. Could easily be Photoshopped to match the description we've been hearing I'm sure.

There's been a few photos floating around. It's hard to tell which ones are real.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

I read it in the paper today. They discovered OBL's courier's identity, then tracked him down to the area, then tracked him down to the house. The house was very suspicious, eventually they spotted OBL in the compound (via satellite), and then the plan was set in motion...

I don't think they ever spotted him. Unless I misunderstood. They just had a very good idea of where he was because they knew where everyone else was.

[PackersFan]

Originally Posted by Yasa

There's been a few photos floating around. It's hard to tell which ones are real.

None are real. The White House is still deciding weather to release the photos or not. Also deliberating releasing footage of his burial.

[Azure]

Picture looks real enough though.

[Yasa]

Originally Posted by PackersFan

None are real. The White House is still deciding weather to release the photos or not. Also deliberating releasing footage of his burial.

While you're most likely right in that none out now are real, it's not up to the White House to release them. I mean, they will release their official ones, but photos like these get leaked all the time.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by Azure

I don't think they ever spotted him. Unless I misunderstood. They just had a very good idea of where he was because they knew where everyone else was.

Today's Herald says specifically that Osama was spotted (by satellite) exercising in the compound, and facial recognition software confirmed the identity.

[PackersFan]

Originally Posted by Yasa

While you're most likely right in that none out now are real, it's not up to the White House to release them. I mean, they will release their official ones, but photos like these get leaked all the time.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...n-photo-video/

This was so guarded, that I am positive the US government has the only pictures of his actual body.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Yasa

While you're most likely right in that none out now are real, it's not up to the White House to release them. I mean, they will release their official ones, but photos like these get leaked all the time.

But the WH is the only ones in possesion of any of these photos unless one of the seals was carrying a camera with him, which would jeopardize that guys career at the very least and likely land him in jail if he released them.

[Thor]

One of the troops should have teabagged a dead Osama.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by Thor

One of the troops should have teabagged a dead Osama.

Yeah, cause thats a really great area to contract mites.