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Old 05-02-2011, 09:13 PM   #3921
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Ignatieff goes from "He didn't come back for you" to "Why the #### did I come back?"
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:13 PM   #3922
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Although Rae would say otherwise, the Liberal party is much closer to the Cons than the NDP
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:13 PM   #3923
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Is he wrong?

Wait...I thought the Liberals were the centrist party in Canada now?

now that they lose...they are left?

The CPC is now the center party in canada.

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Old 05-02-2011, 09:13 PM   #3924
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Conrad Black comes to mind.
CBC's Amanda Lang got an email from Black 10 mins ago, and he said this was a move to a 2 party system, which was great for Canada. Also said he was glad to see the Bloc torn apart. Didn't sound like a Liberal Candidate though in waiting.
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:14 PM   #3925
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Our democracy existed just fine for over 140 years without the subsidy. It will exist fine for the next 140. It's not up to the tax payers to fund parties. It is up to supporters. Go donate to your party of choice.
it's great for people who can afford to donate to political parties - if you can't you're SOL
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:14 PM   #3927
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Yes he's wrong. Liberal Party is still a big one which is just falling on bad times. No WAY they merge with the NDP and become the NDP.
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:14 PM   #3928
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I wish that were true.

The Copyright bill will likely pass, as will the scraping of the gun registry and fun useless tax cuts for corporations. Health care will likely get cut as well.

Not to mention spending billions on jets that probably won't be necessary by the time we'd get them.

I'm hoping that all those things don't come true, but I think we all know that they will.
If that's all that happens then what exactly are you worried about?
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:14 PM   #3929
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Bob Rae basically saying that there should be talk of uniting the left because they have 60% of the vote, while the CPC have only 40%. STFU Rae.
The funny thing is Rae is a Bay Street lawyer that may have been an NDP and a Liberal but he wears blue underwear.

The man is simply an opportunist.
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:15 PM   #3930
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If that's all that happens then what exactly are you worried about?
That some conservatives are going to show up at his door with unregistered guns pointed at him.
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:16 PM   #3931
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it's great for people who can afford to donate to political parties - if you can't you're SOL

What?

you can donate whatever you can afford. 10 bucks, 100 bucks whatever.

How do you think Obama built his warchest that decimated the GOP?
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That some conservatives are going to show up at his door with unregistered guns pointed at him.
Ahh I see.
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:16 PM   #3933
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You guys are funny... Can't talk now though, have to go buy me some guns, and an ankle chain for Mrs. Impaler. And I can finally put my giant Jebus on the Cross sculpture on the front lawn. Yeeeeeeeeehhhhhaaaahhh!
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If you want nothing but minority governments, go ahead and switch to proportional representation instead of first past the post.
I believe the majority of the democracies in the world right now are proportional representation systems. Minority gov'ts can get things accomplished and compromise is not a bad thing IMO. Majorities are a lot scarier than minorities.

PR is the way to go IMO. First past the post is a broken system that promotes 2 large parties. The Conservatives will now have a majority without securing the majority of votes. They have around 40% of the popular vote. How does that make any sense?
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What?

you can donate whatever you can afford. 10 bucks, 100 bucks whatever.

How do you think Obama built his warchest that decimated the GOP?
Goldman Sachs?
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Forget all the fear mongering from Conservative supporters on the right, and the same from NDP supporters on the left... and let's all rejoice in the debacle of epic purportions by Gilles Duceeppe and the Bloc.
I agree with this, however, the Conservatives had 2 seats in 1992. Weeds never go away, they come back eventually if you are lazy and incompetent enough.
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"We tried to run a different type of campaign."

Mission accomplished, Michael. The Liberals have never had a campaign like this before.
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:17 PM   #3938
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Ya absolutely.

More Liberals would go Conservative than NDP. You can't just add up the seats and say a merger means flipping the majority the other way, or even a minority.

NDP is an extremest party and that will be on stage for everyone over the next few years. If the Liberal party broke up, that would probably just make the majority stronger.
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it's great for people who can afford to donate to political parties - if you can't you're SOL
But a vast number of Albertans can afford to - a way higher percentage than the rest of Canada. Therefore it is good policy.
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I believe the majority of the democracies in the world right now are proportional representation systems. Minority gov'ts can get things accomplished and compromise is not a bad thing IMO. Majorities are a lot scarier than minorities.

PR is the way to go IMO. First past the post is a broken system that promotes 2 large parties. The Conservatives will now have a majority without securing the majority of votes. They have around 40% of the popular vote. How does that make any sense?
There are so many parties in Canada that 40% of the popular vote is pretty large.
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