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Old 05-02-2011, 02:21 PM   #3401
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Except no one ever thinks this applies to themselves.
Fortunately I'm an above-average voter so I can point out to everyone else that this quote describes them perfectly.
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Old 05-02-2011, 02:35 PM   #3402
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Old 05-02-2011, 02:39 PM   #3403
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Quick question: Are spoiled ballots tabulated? Or are they lumped in with the apathetic voters?
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Old 05-02-2011, 02:40 PM   #3404
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Haha... one caller just admitted that she doesn't even know that we have a first past the post system. She thought you just took the popular vote and multiplied it by the number of seats in the House.
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Old 05-02-2011, 02:42 PM   #3405
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Fortunately I'm an above-average voter so I can point out to everyone else that this quote describes them perfectly.
The average Canadian doesn't even know who Canada's head of state is. If you are in this thread then chances are, you are not the average voter because you are at least somewhat interested in Canadian politics. The average voter is pretty clueless.
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Old 05-02-2011, 02:44 PM   #3406
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The fact that Lay-ton's penis works might make me vote for him. Guy obviously has some blood flowing through.
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Old 05-02-2011, 02:51 PM   #3407
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Something I wrote today, perhaps a little late, but ahh well:

I don't usually talk politics on Facebook, as it usually ends up being mutual masturbation
or two people talking and no one listening. So this will be as non-partisan as possible.
One of the impediments on our current political process is negativity. When you're no longer voting for Jack Johnson, but against John Jackson, something has been lost.

Basing your vote off of HarperEatsKittens.ca or IggysWarPlans.com or JacksRubnTug.org isn't a positive election process, it's a negative one. If you dislike a party, what they've done and what they've said, that's fine and valid. But, before you vote for a party, examine their platform, and think about what the consequences of it will be on you, on Canada, and one the world.

If you think the Conservatives are best set to run the economy, vote for them.
If you think the Liberals will help best develop our health care and education system, vote for them.
If you think the NDP will best develop our nation’s social safety net, vote for them.
If you think the Greens will protect our environment best, vote for them.

Don't vote against, vote for. The difference in mindset and political discourse will make our system a more mature and effective one.
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Old 05-02-2011, 02:57 PM   #3408
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Quick question: Are spoiled ballots tabulated? Or are they lumped in with the apathetic voters?
Fairly certain spoiled ballots are tabulated, but not sure if/when that info is released.
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Old 05-02-2011, 02:57 PM   #3409
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Something I wrote today, perhaps a little late, but ahh well:

I don't usually talk politics on Facebook, as it usually ends up being mutual masturbation
or two people talking and no one listening. So this will be as non-partisan as possible.
One of the impediments on our current political process is negativity. When you're no longer voting for Jack Johnson, but against John Jackson, something has been lost.

Basing your vote off of HarperEatsKittens.ca or IggysWarPlans.com or JacksRubnTug.org isn't a positive election process, it's a negative one. If you dislike a party, what they've done and what they've said, that's fine and valid. But, before you vote for a party, examine their platform, and think about what the consequences of it will be on you, on Canada, and one the world.

If you think the Conservatives are best set to run the economy, vote for them.
If you think the Liberals will help best develop our health care and education system, vote for them.
If you think the NDP will best develop our nation’s social safety net, vote for them.
If you think the Greens will protect our environment best, vote for them.

Don't vote against, vote for. The difference in mindset and political discourse will make our system a more mature and effective one.
I think voting against a party rather than for a party is more a product of our first past the post system. If there was some form of electoral process that valued the popular vote (although I don't think that a straight proportional representation would be the way to go), then I think you would see people voting for the party that they want rather than against the party that they don't.
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Old 05-02-2011, 02:57 PM   #3410
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Wow, I just looked at Layton's 'costing' document and realized what a joke it is.

http://xfer.ndp.ca/2011/2011-Platfor...mSS_web_en.pdf

There's nothing behind the numbers, and if you look at the cost assumptions on each pledge it's a complete joke.
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Old 05-02-2011, 03:02 PM   #3411
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Wow, I just looked at Layton's 'costing' document and realized what a joke it is.

http://xfer.ndp.ca/2011/2011-Platfor...mSS_web_en.pdf

There's nothing behind the numbers, and if you look at the cost assumptions on each pledge it's a complete joke.
I thought this part was pretty funny:

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“This budget represents a package in line with the fiscal framework noted in the March Budget, but with a major set of changes in the mix. These changes result in more resources for the environment, for people, and for provincial actions, with less resources being given to the corporate sector.

It is likely that there will be net job creation relative to the Conservative Budget given the choices of child care, investment, and government spending, particularly if you believe corporate tax increases result in few job losses.”
Based on fairytale economics that no economist supports...
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Old 05-02-2011, 03:03 PM   #3412
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This budget represents a package in line with the fiscal framework noted in the March Budget, but with a major set of changes in the mix
So to conclude...its the same....but different.
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Old 05-02-2011, 03:06 PM   #3413
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If Layton wins, I hope we have a Pinochet ready to spring into action...
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Old 05-02-2011, 03:09 PM   #3414
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If Lay-ton wins, I'm going hard after Olivia.
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Old 05-02-2011, 03:12 PM   #3415
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cana...ranks-411.html

Nice to see the conservatives again stooping to this reprehensible level.

Same #### they pulled in Saanich-Gulf Islands last election.

Policies don't matter one iota when our democracy itself is at stake.
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Old 05-02-2011, 03:14 PM   #3416
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Of course, it's the conservatives.

They know exactly who's going to vote for whom. They have machines, and they're using them.
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Old 05-02-2011, 03:17 PM   #3417
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Nice to see the conservatives again stooping to this reprehensible level.

Same #### they pulled in Saanich-Gulf Islands last election.

Policies don't matter one iota when our democracy itself is at stake.
Wait, so why do you pin this on the CPC? Do you think if the CPC were actually behind something this dirty that they would identify themselves as CPC candidates in the automated message?
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Old 05-02-2011, 03:22 PM   #3418
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Wait, so why do you pin this on the CPC? Do you think if the CPC were actually behind something this dirty that they would identify themselves as CPC candidates in the automated message?

Especially when the number traces back to Montreal..that bastion of CPC support!!

Wait...no that's Liberal/NDP territory.

Im confused.
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Old 05-02-2011, 03:23 PM   #3419
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Wait, so why do you pin this on the CPC? Do you think if the CPC were actually behind something this dirty that they would identify themselves as CPC candidates in the automated message?
In the words of your power hungry "leader": "They've done it before, they'll do it again".
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Old 05-02-2011, 03:28 PM   #3420
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In the words of your power hungry "leader": "They've done it before, they'll do it again".
I can't wait until this election is over. Every little thing gets blamed on the CPC, regardless of the facts. Those calls were traced back to Montreal. What about that strikes you as a "this must be a CPC thing"? Do you think a CPC candidate trying to send voters to the wrong polling station would identify him or herself as a CPC candidate? Holy crap, I really have to wonder if people like you even think or if you simply race to post your drivel the second you read over the headlines.

The stakes are high for every single party yet without giving it a second thought, this must be the Conservatives tampering with our democracy. A person like you doesn't even need 5 minutes to make his case for the pitfalls of democracy.

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