I would very much doubt that there will be a coalition if the expected results happen.
Michael Ignatieff wants to be prime minister, that was the whole driving force for him coming back.
That was the whole reason why he was willing to make deals to avoid a vote for Liberal leader, that was the reason why he was willing to put his stamp on the last coalition agreement.
If the NDP surges past the Liberals, then any coalition has Jack Layton as Prime Minister and not Ignatieff.
Its not that Ignatieff didn't come back for you, he came back to put his hand prints in the concrete of Canadian Political history, and it looks like he might accomplish that by bringing back the worst results in Liberal History since John Turner.
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Lay-ton doesn't understand what a competitive market is.
Lay-ton thinks that gas prices should be regulated.
Welcome to your new paradise, komrade!
It's pretty funny that if his 'gas price ombudsman' finds there's nothing wrong, he's going to regulate prices lower anyway! Also it's rather ignorant to legislate prices people can charge. If you want to curb green house gases you have to charge more for people to use them, that has to come out of the consumer in some way. There is no free lunch where people can pay low heating bills, 0.80 cents a litre on gasoline and reduce green house gases. This is the ravings of a lunatic. People this is evidence that we're not talking about a lighter gentler 'Third Way' NDP, we're talking about the same economic ######s of generations past.
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“We want to get tough … using competition laws and a new office of an ombudsman to have somebody standing on the side of the consumers,” Mr. Layton said. “And I don’t accept this analysis that’s being offered, that the big polluters should suddenly be justified to raise prices as we’re going to have to deal with the costs of pollution.”
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Stephen Har-per was just on live on the Team 1040 and basically said we are all Canuck fans
Off with his head!
That Mofo
Screw it, the Green party chalk grafiti on the walking paths has now convinced me to vote green for Heather McPherson
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And the second the Conservatives bring religion back into politics is the second the Conservatives lose my vote. I'd be willing to say that they would lose A LOT more support if they bring overt religious ideology into the political arena than if they leave it where it belongs (the 4 walls of your house).
Before the merge the Reform party was overtly religious. They had plenty of votes and yet our country wasn't falling apart. At some point, though, the Reform party (and Cons after the merge) became more about winning and power and less about values and ideologies. I find it frustrating to see other knuckle-draggers like myself (Calgaryborn?) don't take the Cons to task for their betrayal, but blind partisanship will do that to you, I suppose.
Constant losing to Jean Cretien changes your minds about things pretty quick.
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Before the merge the Reform party was overtly religious. They had plenty of votes and yet our country wasn't falling apart. At some point, though, the Reform party (and Cons after the merge) became more about winning and power and less about values and ideologies. I find it frustrating to see other knuckle-draggers like myself (Calgaryborn?) don't take the Cons to task for their betrayal, but blind partisanship will do that to you, I suppose.
Fair enough. The Reform party had a HUGE protest vote more than a religiuos vote. Regarding the power grab I think the same can be said for all start-up / new parties in a democracy and is a big reason why I'm not happy to have to pick a party this election.
I don't know, I see a little more than that in Harper. I get the impression he'd sell his soul if it got him a majority. He has a special air of power hunger you don't quite see with others.
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Does that mean that Harper should get a free pass for his scandals because previous governments were also bad? People need to be held accountable for their actions. Just because Chretien (and Mulroney before him, and Trudeau before him, etc.) also had scandals doesn't mean the current guys in power are off the hook.
Now, if you want to say that the economy is your #1 issue with everything else secondary, and you support the CPC because you believe they have the best platform in that area, I'm ok with that. Just don't sweep the indiscretions of The Harper Government(TM) under the table and pretend they don't matter because previous governments also had scandals.
See, thats the thing.
The economy is such a huge issue right now that I'm overlooking a lot of what Harper has done that DOES have me concerned.
I think a lot of people don't understand how delicate out economy is right now.
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People, if Shazam says this, it really shows that Layton is out to lunch.
Because me and him(Shazam) disagree on 99% of everything we ever talk about, but we agree here.
Jeez.
Oh yeah for sure. On a relative basis SebC, Slava, and MarchHare are mighty fine individuals (we're even thanking each other's posts!). I'm starting to regret the hair splitting that went on here about corporate taxes a few weeks ago, as it seems we have bigger problems now. At least at that point we were having rational arguements about reasonable policies on both sides. Now, it looks like the country, in an emotional backlash against status quo politicians, is about to throw the keys to a rag tag bunch of ######s. The interwebs are full of this 'us vs. them' class warfare of people who have jumped on the NDP bandwagon.
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Oh yeah for sure. On a relative basis SebC, Slava, and MarchHare are mighty fine individuals (we're even thanking each other's posts!). I'm starting to regret the hair splitting that went on here about corporate taxes a few weeks ago, as it seems we have bigger problems now. At least at that point we were having rational arguements about reasonable policies on both sides. Now, it looks like the country, in an emotional backlash against status quo politicians, is about to throw the keys to a rag tag bunch of ######s. The interwebs are full of this 'us vs. them' class warfare of people who have jumped on the NDP bandwagon.
Well I just love to argue about politics...can't help myself I'm afraid. I was thinking of showing up at Petes on Sunday night to make sure you don't do anything silly on Monday and vote CPC!
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At this point I would give the Liberals a clear majority if it meant the NDP got nowhere near to having enough power to influence our nation.
Would you hate me if I just snipped a bit of this to use in my signature?
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Well I just love to argue about politics...can't help myself I'm afraid. I was thinking of showing up at Petes on Sunday night to make sure you don't do anything silly on Monday and vote CPC!
Would you hate me if I just snipped a bit of this to use in my signature?
Hopefully you show up for our game too!
As for the sig - Maybe you could do a little 'CPC style' editing and remove the part about the NDP in that post!
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I might come for part of the games we'll see how things go.
I just thought that a signature from you saying you would give the Liberals a majority would be amusing. Alas only a Conservative could stoop that low!
Before the merge the Reform party was overtly religious. They had plenty of votes and yet our country wasn't falling apart. At some point, though, the Reform party (and Cons after the merge) became more about winning and power and less about values and ideologies. I find it frustrating to see other knuckle-draggers like myself (Calgaryborn?) don't take the Cons to task for their betrayal, but blind partisanship will do that to you, I suppose.
I never considered the Reform party overtly religious. I voted for them because of their political platform. I don't think religious people should be excluded from public office but, their job isn't to be spiritual leaders.
That being said I'm glad our riding's conservative canadate professes Christianity and does attend services regularly.
