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Old 04-26-2011, 07:16 PM   #21
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Nice that they didn't give any country relevant information for people that live outside the US. Thanks Sony.
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Old 04-26-2011, 10:14 PM   #22
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My Card is on there and I'm pissed. Worst off I even paid for the Playstation plus because I had a save game I wanted to move and didnt have a USB so paid for the cloud storage.

Absolutely brutal. I hope there is a class action brewing.
Woah settle down there. A credit card is one of the easiest things to resolve if it's compromised. It's a matter of getting any charges reversed and a new card/#. Isn't the end of the world here.

Class action lawsuit for what type of damages?

Imagine how many smaller companies out there have been compromised and simply don't say anything? It's those that I'm more worried about.
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Old 04-26-2011, 11:10 PM   #23
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Woah settle down there. A credit card is one of the easiest things to resolve if it's compromised. It's a matter of getting any charges reversed and a new card/#. Isn't the end of the world here.
True, but it's a serious PITA. And takes a while to reverse said charges.

42 passwords I'm in the midst of changing. only 28 to go. Wheeee!

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Nice that they didn't give any country relevant information for people that live outside the US. Thanks Sony.
Equifax and TransUnion are the ones used in Canada as well.
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Old 04-26-2011, 11:48 PM   #24
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I just went through this a few months ago, and changed all my passwords and then installed a password manager. Sony failing Internet Security 101 kind of surprises me, though.
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Old 04-27-2011, 12:16 AM   #25
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True, but it's a serious PITA. And takes a while to reverse said charges.

42 passwords I'm in the midst of changing. only 28 to go. Wheeee!


Equifax and TransUnion are the ones used in Canada as well.
Why do you have to change all your passwords?
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Old 04-27-2011, 12:22 AM   #26
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Why do you have to change all your passwords?
Just precautionary/paranoid/whatever. I changed anything that used the same email address or username as my PSN id, as well as all my banking/cc sing-ins just in case.
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Old 04-27-2011, 01:32 AM   #27
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Why do you have to change all your passwords?
If you use the same password on many websites or for many services and accounts and it happened to be the same password as you used for PSN (even worse if you used the same username), then the hacker has access to your name and e-mail and contact information and he can tie in the password he stole from the database to your personal information and that's all he needs to get into your accounts.

Why Sony didn't encrypt the password database is beyond me. Most places, when they get infiltrated, will only have something like e-mail addresses stolen but the hackers can't get into the passwords if the entire database is heavily encrypted.
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Old 04-27-2011, 07:45 AM   #28
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If you use the same password on many websites or for many services and accounts and it happened to be the same password as you used for PSN (even worse if you used the same username), then the hacker has access to your name and e-mail and contact information and he can tie in the password he stole from the database to your personal information and that's all he needs to get into your accounts.

Why Sony didn't encrypt the password database is beyond me. Most places, when they get infiltrated, will only have something like e-mail addresses stolen but the hackers can't get into the passwords if the entire database is heavily encrypted.
I can definitely see if your using the same password for things tied to that email address. He didn't mention that he was sharing passwords though, so I assumed he wasn't.

Ah well, it's good practice to change those out every now and then anyways. Obviously it's best if this isn't the reason.

Probably a good time to yet again mention how much I love 1password. Helps you create and store passwords for everything. It would really be handy for an exercise like this.
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I can definitely see if your using the same password for things tied to that email address. He didn't mention that he was sharing passwords though, so I assumed he wasn't.
Variations of it or a few things. Nothing overly sensitive. Mostly forums, etc.
Figured since I was changing some I may as well change anything that is associated with my PSN email while I was at it. Like you said, it's not a bad idea to change passwords now and then anyways.

Thanks for the 1password suggestion. I'll take a look at it. Are there any options to make it portable (ie on an encrypted USB stick) so a guy can use it at work, etc? Or is it only for use on your main computer?

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Good thing my credit card is basically maxed out. Joke's on you, hackers!
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Another +1 for 1password. Combined with DropBox, it's become indispensable to me.

I mean that literally, btw. There's no way in hell I'm ever going to remember those 20-character passwords with symbols, case-changes and digits that I've been generating for things...
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Old 04-27-2011, 04:26 PM   #32
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Boy do I hope they find the hackers. Because they won't just get sued but totally ass-fataed back to the 1500's.
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Old 04-27-2011, 05:39 PM   #33
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Not that it matters but did Sony sent everyone an e-mail other those they think were affected? I got an e-mail so I am just wondering.
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I didn't get an email.
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I didn't get an email.
Scratch that...just received an email.
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Old 04-27-2011, 06:05 PM   #36
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There are reports of Sony users having their credit cards use fradulently:

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2...blame-sony.ars

http://vgn365.com/2011/04/26/psn-use...len-from-them/

Sony is now facing a lawsuit:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20057921-260.html
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Old 04-27-2011, 08:11 PM   #37
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Wow. It will be interesting to see how they recover from this. I know I won't be using my CC with them anymore.
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Old 04-27-2011, 08:31 PM   #38
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There are reports of Sony users having their credit cards use fradulently:

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2...blame-sony.ars

http://vgn365.com/2011/04/26/psn-use...len-from-them/
Hard to come to the conclusion these fraud actions were a result of the hacking of PSN. It could easily be something else. Fraud happens all the time and there were 77 million PSN accounts. Easily a coincidence. (ie. don't panic)
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Hard to come to the conclusion these fraud actions were a result of the hacking of PSN. It could easily be something else. Fraud happens all the time and there were 77 million PSN accounts. Easily a coincidence. (ie. don't panic)
Or, it could as easily be the hackers that gained access to your credit card information.
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Or, it could as easily be the hackers that gained access to your credit card information.
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