The way I would like to see it is that each party released a list of members for each region they plan on participating in.
The list of names would be ranked in order from top to bottom, 1. 2. 3. etc.
Then each province's party vote breakdown is translated into the amount of seats that each party wins in a given province.
In Alberta, there's 28 seats if I recall correctly. So if the vote breakdown goes as follows
60% Conservatives
20% Liberals
15% NDP
5% Green
Then you just do the math, and the Conservatives get 17 seats, Liberals get 6 seats NDP get 4, and the Greens 1.
So the top 17 names get taken from the Conservative list, the top 6 from the Liberals and so on. Afterwards, they get allocated a riding in their province to represent in parliament.
That way everyone's vote counts everywhere, and the parties actually have to give a crap about more than just Ontario and Quebec. I'm a typically Liberal voter, and my vote has not mattered at all other than to give the party $2. It is especially annoying because Rob fricken Anders is the dufus in my riding.
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Ignatieff wanted to differentiate himself, instead he's running a very Conservative campaign with a very NDP platform, and he's not doing a good job of either.
I think you completely missed my point.
Haper wanted to differentiatie himself, instead his government has had very Liberal-like ethical issues with an NDP-like spending record, yet he's flirting with a majority.
So if failure to differentiation yourself is really bad for a campaign, the Conservatives should be hurting just as much as the Liberals. They aren't, because attack ads work.
Haper wanted to differentiatie himself, instead his government has had very Liberal-like ethical issues with an NDP-like spending record, yet he's flirting with a majority.
So if failure to differentiation yourself is really bad for a campaign, the Conservatives should be hurting just as much as the Liberals. They aren't, because attack ads work.
What makes the Conservatives the best choice is the fact that they more ethical than the Liberals and much more responsible at spending money than a NDP government would be. There best characteristic is their moderation. The toughest job the opposition has is convincing Canadians that their guy would be better.
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What makes the Conservatives the best choice is the fact that they more ethical than the Liberals and much more responsible at spending money than a NDP government would be. There best characteristic is their moderation. The toughest job the opposition has is convincing Canadians that their guy would be better.
Not sure how one can make that claim whatsoever. Both the CPC and the Liberals have had their fair share of peccadillos over the last decade or so.
If this election was about ethics...I'm not sure anyone would win. Instead this election is about the economy and jobs along with stability in Ottawa. That's why the CPC will win the election with a minority and we will be right where we are today.
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This Manitoba CPC candidate's video starts off poorly when he misspells "Parliment" (sic) in the first three seconds. It only gets more unintentionally hilarious from there.
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Meh^^^ That riding hasn't seen a Conservative elected since the 70's.
And I might add...i doubt HE was the one that made spelling error. On top of that the rest of it was rather run of the mill, sans the theme from Cops which was just odd.
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Not sure how one can make that claim whatsoever. Both the CPC and the Liberals have had their fair share of peccadillos over the last decade or so.
If this election was about ethics...I'm not sure anyone would win. Instead this election is about the economy and jobs along with stability in Ottawa. That's why the CPC will win the election with a minority and we will be right where we are today.
I think if you give any party enough space and enough time, unethical behaviour will work its way in somehow. Probably one of the worst things to happen to the Liberal party was their almost complete and total domination during the 90s. The checks and balances weren't there. Without that, the human element of greed will affect policy.
With the Conservative party in recent years, they have had to be more careful... which is a good thing. But I don't think they are intrinsically more or less "ethical" than any other party.
Probably most of the candidates from the Liberals and Conservatives would switch parties in a second if the opportunity was there and they thought they had a better chance of getting elected.
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And I might add...i doubt HE was the one that made spelling error. On top of that the rest of it was rather run of the mill, sans the theme from Cops which was just odd.
Surely he must have approved the video before it went online though, right? And didn't you get a kick out of the way he said, "What a minute, are you old enough to vote?" and then turned to smile at the camera? So cheesy!
I just found the shoddy production quality amusing regardless of the party affiliation of the candidate produced it. I was debating whether to post it here or in the funny video thread, and I wasn't commenting on the politics of the video, so no need to get defensive.
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Surely he must have approved the video before it went online though, right? And didn't you get a kick out of the way he said, "What a minute, are you old enough to vote?" and then turned to smile at the camera? So cheesy!
I just found the shoddy production quality amusing regardless of the party affiliation of the candidate produced it. I was debating whether to post it here or in the funny video thread, and I wasn't commenting on the politics of the video, so no need to get defensive.
4 words...Stephane Dion Liberal Party.
And who knows if the guy approved it or not, often that falls to campaign managers. Yes...it was cheesy as are most ads depicting candidates at home etc.
This Manitoba CPC candidate's video starts off poorly when he misspells "Parliment" (sic) in the first three seconds. It only gets more unintentionally hilarious from there.
With some of these candidates it doesn't even look like some of the parties are trying. The NDP candidate in Calgary West lives in Edmonton, her only experience is as a Safeway clerk (which is still more real-world experience than Rob Anders), and when asked what she thought the big issues in the ward are she replied that she wasn't really familiar but presumed they're the same as other wards. Yeah I know the NDP aren't likely to win, but you'd think they could at least pretend to field a credible candidate.
With some of these candidates it doesn't even look like some of the parties are trying. The NDP candidate in Calgary West lives in Edmonton, her only experience is as a Safeway clerk (which is still more real-world experience than Rob Anders), and when asked what she thought the big issues in the ward are she replied that she wasn't really familiar but presumed they're the same as other wards. Yeah I know the NDP aren't likely to win, but you'd think they could at least pretend to field a credible candidate.
Ya, I'm actually pretty disappointed with the effort that they campaigns are making in Calgary all around. I get that chances to win for the opposition parties is somewhere between slim and none, but frankly there are a lot of voters here who are not going to vote CPC.
I also know that the campaign period isn't enough, and that to mount something credible they would need to basically run a campaign for 2 years straight...but the question is do you want to win/try to win or just throw away the seats? Frustrating.
The CPC on the other hand could at least pretend they had to campaign. I swear I've seen only a handful of signs in my riding....maybe a dozen all together. That is seriously pathetic, and not just because its not the party I prefer. I guess it would be nice if there was even a debate to attend or something going on. in Lethbridge (which is easily as slanted in terms of outcome) there are always debates, media coverage and overall just a much more open process.
Ya, I'm actually pretty disappointed with the effort that they campaigns are making in Calgary all around. I get that chances to win for the opposition parties is somewhere between slim and none, but frankly there are a lot of voters here who are not going to vote CPC.
Like I said earlier, I think this is in their best interests. They need to send a strong message to voters in this part of the country and giving up on someone is a pretty strong message. For example, when your parents weren't mad at you but rather disappointed it usually hit home. Imagine the kid down the road who's parents just straight up gave up.
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With some of these candidates it doesn't even look like some of the parties are trying. The NDP candidate in Calgary West lives in Edmonton, her only experience is as a Safeway clerk (which is still more real-world experience than Rob Anders), and when asked what she thought the big issues in the ward are she replied that she wasn't really familiar but presumed they're the same as other wards. Yeah I know the NDP aren't likely to win, but you'd think they could at least pretend to field a credible candidate.
Geez, if I had known it was that bad, I would have put myself up as the NDP candidate for Calgary West. I would lose badly, but at least I live in the riding and I might have gotten a cool autographed picture of Jack Layton.
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Like I said earlier, I think this is in their best interests. They need to send a strong message to voters in this part of the country and giving up on someone is a pretty strong message. For example, when your parents weren't mad at you but rather disappointed it usually hit home. Imagine the kid down the road who's parents just straight up gave up.
ya, and I get that. The sad reality is that I could've campaigned harder and gotten more votes for the Liberals in Calgary SW than they are going to get (and I'm nobody).
The CPC certainly doesn't have a monopoly on good ideas, and if someone was to work hard in Calgary there are some ridings where the opposition parties could make a decent showing (if not win). If the CPC felt there was a strong campaign running here it might pull a guy like Jason "I'm against the gold-plated pensions and career politicians" Kenney back from campaigning elsewhere and force him to actually set foot in his riding.
