Edmonton murder capital of Canada

[NinePack]

With the missing couple found slain, Edmonton is unofficially murder capital of Canada passing Toronto with 18. Edmonton has 19.

Calgary sits at only 2 . Is there more gang activity ? Wonder what majority would be related to.

[krynski]

yep. i got a high chance of getting killed.

[TurnedTheCorner]

Sounds like a good start.

http://www.hiyoooo.com/

[HamptonIce]

Deadmonton is a ruff city, and I think this can be attributed to the gang activity. If you have been to clubs/bars there it can be dicey compared to the Tdot. In addition, the extreme weather does not contribute a positive psyche.

[arloiginla]

It's Dumpsville for a reason.

Mostly blue collar town, cold 365 days a year, smells most of the time, and all the sports teams suck.

Recipe for success if you ask me.

Cool story bro, I was engaged in small talk with a few classmates a couple weeks ago about what everyone was wearing to the end-of-year banquet, and mentioned something about sweat pants and good shoes. Right away a girl pipes up, "Only Edmontonians wear sweat pants with good shoes!"

Beauty.

[OilKiller]

Originally Posted by arloiginla

Mostly blue collar town, cold 365 days a year, smells most of the time, and all the sports teams suck.

Ugh...I just had to...

Yes, we freeze our asses off the whole year.

Just stop...really...

[metallicat]

It's been a bad year for homicides no doubt, but I don't think its attributable to gangs. Two of the homicides were police shootings, and many of the other ones that I can think of off the top of my head were not gang related. It's just been a bad year. It has nothing to do with weather, job preference, or sports. Edmonton is having a bad year, Calgary is having a good year. Hence the discrepancy.

I used to work with a guy who was murdered this year, but I think it was outside of Edmonton and thus not counted. No loss to society that he no longer walks the Earth.

[arloiginla]

Originally Posted by OilKiller

Ugh...I just had to...

Yes, we freeze our asses off the whole year.

Just stop...really...

Didn't take you long did it.

Average temperature year-round is 2.9 degrees. That's cold. Average of -13.7 in January...

..yea Calgary isn't exactly having warm weather either right now and is cold too. But I wasn't comparing. Just saying Edmonton is cold. Which it is.

[trackercowe]

Ah sweet victory. We truly are the City of Champions!

[HotHotHeat]

Edmonton is a black mark on Alberta, to be sure.

[rubecube]

Is it really a crime when the victims don't have to live in Edmonton anymore?

[WilsonFourTwo]

I would have expected it to be the suicide capital, but this works too.....

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by arloiginla

Didn't take you long did it.

Average temperature year-round is 2.9 degrees. That's cold. Average of -13.7 in January...

..yea Calgary isn't exactly having warm weather either right now and is cold too. But I wasn't comparing. Just saying Edmonton is cold. Which it is.

And the average temperature in Calgary is a balmy 3.5 degrees.

The average temperature in Calgary in January is -16....

And while it is unfortunate that there are deaths in Edmonton, the city is still nice and is safe just like the vast majority of Calgary is.

[Matata]

Originally Posted by oilers_fan

Edmonton is having a bad year, Calgary is having a good year. Hence the discrepancy.

Every time I look at crime statistics in Canada, Edmonton is always above average, Calgary is usually way below. It isn't the year.

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by HotHotHeat

Edmonton is a black mark on Alberta, to be sure.

[burn_this_city]

I saw the front page of the Sun in our coffee station up here in Fort Mac, at first I was thinking holy crap, then I realized it was the Edmonton Sun.

[kipperfan]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

And the average temperature in Calgary is a balmy 3.5 degrees.

The average temperature in Calgary in January is -16....

Well now, lets keep bias out of our facts, shall we? You conveniently failed to mention that the website you got that info from lists Edmonton's yearly average at 2.0 degrees and January at -19. No matter where you look or who you ask, it is a colder city then Calgary. Period, end of story.

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

And while it is unfortunate that there are deaths in Edmonton, the city is still nice and is safe just like the vast majority of Calgary is.

Okay, that makes alot of sense.

So they have 19 murders to our 2 this year and have beat us in murders in every one of the last 10 years (despite being a smaller city). They also (consistently) have a higher rate of other types of violent crime including assault and rape...but as long as Mr.Mustard says its "nice and safe just like Calgary" then I guess we'll just have to take his word for it.

http://www2.macleans.ca/canadas-most...-the-rankings/

This came out in 2010, but I think the 19 murders to date in 2011 indicate nothing has changed (if anything, Edmonton looks to climb higher in the ranks next year!). You take a good long look at that list and tell me again Edmonton is as safe as Calgary.

By the way, you love to enter into these Calgary-Edmonton back and forths, but to what end? You're a Vancouver fan that lives in Calgary, have you even been to Edmonton? Where does this broad knowledge of exactly how safe the streets of Edmonton come from? Please do enlighten me, as your little tale flies directly in the face of any and all of the provincial crime statistics available.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by kipperfan

Well now, lets keep bias out of our facts, shall we? You conveniently failed to mention that the website you got that info from lists Edmonton's yearly average at 2.0 degrees and January at -19. No matter where you look or who you ask, it is a colder city then Calgary. Period, end of story.

Edmonton is a colder city I don't doubt that, but to consider Calgary to be a tropical paradise relatively speaking (hyperbole of course) is completely asinine.

Originally Posted by kipperfan

Okay, that makes alot of sense.

So they have 19 murders to our 2 this year and have beat us in murders in every one of the last 10 years (despite being a smaller city). They also (consistently) have a higher rate of other types of violent crime including assault and rape...but as long as Mr.Mustard says its "nice and safe just like Calgary" then I guess we'll just have to take his word for it.

http://www2.macleans.ca/canadas-most...-the-rankings/

This came out in 2010, but I think the 19 murders to date in 2011 indicate nothing has changed (if anything, Edmonton looks to climb higher in the ranks next year!). You take a good long look at that list and tell me again Edmonton is as safe as Calgary.

By the way, you love to enter into these Calgary-Edmonton back and forths, but to what end? You're a Vancouver fan that lives in Calgary, have you even been to Edmonton? Where does this broad knowledge of exactly how safe the streets of Edmonton come from? Please do enlighten me, as your little tale flies directly in the face of any and all of the provincial crime statistics available.

I live in Edmonton for University and have spent time living on the military base north of the city as well.

I have never encountered a dangerous situation in which I feared for my life, in a number of cases it is someone who has put themselves into a dangerous situation. If you went up to Edmonton would you be fearing for your life because there were a higher number of homicides than Calgary? While I don't doubt that the crime rate in Edmonton is higher as can be evidenced by the statistics and the higher than average rate this year, I don't have any problem in saying that the city as a whole is still safe.

And the fact that I like the Canucks has what relevance to this discussion about how I think Edmonton is still a safe city?

The numbers are skewed a bit in this case by considering a police shooting a homicide by the way as well as two of the homicides that they count towards 2011 actually occurred during 2010. So while the statistics say that it is 19, the actual number for the course of this year is 15. Still a high number undoubtedly but wasn't it a few years ago Calgary had a high murder rate based on the gang violence in the city and there as a great deal of talk about how the city wasn't safe anymore?

[philp37]

Edmonton is slightly colder, but I am guessing if you include humidex for "feels like" temperatures, Edmonton with its much lower humidity especially in winter has actually warmer average temperatures than Calgary.

[HOOT]

Edmonton is probably one of the worst and ugliest cities I have ever been to. The thought of going there makes me want to pull the trigger on myself, maybe these people jumped in front of the weapons.