2011 Canadian Election Thread

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by transplant99

But yes, QMI is biased...so is the CBC.

Frankly, there is waaaay more Conservative biased media in this country then Liberal biased Media. Seriously the whole QMI Media Chain, all the old Southam/Canwest papers, and to a lesser extent CTV.

Frankly, I find it hard to think of a station (CBC) that gives such a high profile to Andrew Coyne (Who's pretty conservative, small "c") and Chantel Hebert (No friend of the LPC) such a high profile as all that biased.

But evs, if you want surefire neutrality you're pretty much stuck reading the G&M and watching CPAC.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Time to let the majority rule (meaning who wins the most seats [...]).

No, that's not what majority means.

[WilsonFourTwo]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

If that ever happened, I would hope a new centrist party forms from an alliance of "blue Liberals" and "red Tories" (former PC Party members who disagree with the Reform branch of the CPC).

I will chair the first meeting.....go book us a hall.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by WilsonFourTwo

I will chair the first meeting.....go book us a hall.

I'd sign up for that as well.

[WilsonFourTwo]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Frankly, I find it hard to think of a station (CBC) that gives such a high profile to Andrew Coyne (Who's pretty conservative, small "c") and Chantel Hebert (No friend of the LPC) such a high profile as all that biased.

This came up in another thread a while back, and I really agree with you.

The reality is that the CBC has an inherent left-leaning bias.....so what. It's not overtly trying to manipulate (Fox News style), and even makes reasonable attempts to offer balanced perspectives. Great broadcasting imo.

[Devils'Advocate]

Well, when compared to Sun Media, a blank page would have a left-leaning bias. If the complaint is that taxpayers are paying for the CBC, almost all public broadcasters (ie PBS) have a centerist/leftist bias. Nature of the beast. But I get most irritated by corporate controlled papers being propaganda mills for any given party (Sun for Conservatives, FOX for Republicans).

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by SebC

No, that's not what majority means.

in this case....yes it does.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by WilsonFourTwo

Party member, dues paid, volunteered on the last two campaigns. Go frakk yourself, doosh.

You should definately vote Liberal.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

Well, when compared to Sun Media, a blank page would have a left-leaning bias. If the complaint is that taxpayers are paying for the CBC, almost all public broadcasters (ie PBS) have a centerist/leftist bias. Nature of the beast. But I get most irritated by corporate controlled papers being propaganda mills for any given party (Sun for Conservatives, FOX for Republicans).

So it doesnt bother you that taxpayer money can fund a left leaning entity that not everyone agrees with.....but it does bother you that private money can fund a right leaning entity they all agree with ...with their own money?

yikes.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

Well, when compared to Sun Media, a blank page would have a left-leaning bias. If the complaint is that taxpayers are paying for the CBC, almost all public broadcasters (ie PBS) have a centerist/leftist bias. Nature of the beast. But I get most irritated by corporate controlled papers being propaganda mills for any given party (Sun for Conservatives, FOX for Republicans).

That doesn't make any sense at all.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by transplant99

in this case....yes it does.

No it doesn't. In the context of Canadian politics a majority means controlling 50% + 1 of the seats (and consequently votes to maintain confidence) in the HoC. The entity that wins the most seats could be a majority or a plurality.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

What is that link? is that the front page of the Calgary sun? go look at the front page and tell me whats truthful.

What a joke of a paper.

Uhhh...the actual story behind the headline. You know, the part that explains everything.

I havent seen the front page, but there is a whole lot more to any story than a picture and some sensationalistic headline. Those who don't delve deeper than the cover usually don't have all the information.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Parallex

No it doesn't. In the context of Canadian politics a majority means controlling 50% + 1 of the seats (and consequently votes to maintain confidence) in the HoC. The entity that wins the most seats could be a majority or a plurality.

Sigh...yeah you got me, I had no idea what a majority in Canadian politics meant.

Lemme ask you this...which party has won the majority of the seats the last 3 elections?

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Lemme ask you this...which party has won the majority of the seats the last 3 elections?

None of them. The Tories have won a plurality of them.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Parallex

None of them. The Tories have won the plurality of them.

I see...so its semantics we are going to quibble over.

OK then....lemme re-phrase. For 3 consecutive elections the Canadian voters have voted the Tories in plurality to govern the country.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Uhhh...the actual story behind the headline. You know, the part that explains everything.

I havent seen the front page, but there is a whole lot more to any story than a picture and some sensationalistic headline. Those who don't delve deeper than the cover usually don't have all the information.

its the f-ing calgary sun. a paper meant for Grade 4's. My original post was about the cover alone.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by transplant99

I see...so its semantics we are going to quibble over.

I don't see it as quibbling I see it as just being accurate.

Originally Posted by transplant99

OK then....lemme re-phrase. For 3 consecutive elections the Canadian voters have voted the Tories in plurality to govern the country.

Two elections. We've had three elections where the party that was only able to acheive a plurality of the seats formed government but only the last two were Tories.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

its the f-ing calgary sun. a paper meant for Grade 4's. My original post was about the cover alone.

When a newspaper has WWF Wrestling as the cover story, it's trash. I have to agree.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

I would hope a new centrist party forms from an alliance of "blue Liberals" and "red Tories" (former PC Party members who disagree with the Reform branch of the CPC).

The Purple Party

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by troutman

The Purple Party

Oh look who's got a light saber, make that two, a blue one and a red one, and when you jam em together you get . . . PURPLE!!!