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Old 04-12-2011, 02:52 PM   #1241
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Look at it this way: The Liberals and the NDP banded together and said that Stephen Harper wasn't fit to be the leader of this country and the leader of this proposed coalition couldn't even get a simple video right? The video was late, Dion was out of focus and the entire thing had a very amateur feel to it. If they couldn't even get that right then it doesn't reflect very well on them.
Don't forget the book labelled hot air sitting behind him.

Its funny with the Liberals, someone really sunk the blade into Dion's back early and often in terms of convincing him about the worlds dumbest platform, and then the terrible job they did with the coalition (I'm talking to you Bob Rae)

And then Rae went to war with Ignatieff.
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:54 PM   #1242
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but when people started blasting the production quality of a video and that the person speaking didn't have charisma, it was obvious that the American Idol generation was now in firm control.
The 1960 US Presidential Debates say 'Hi'! The 'American Idol' generation was arguably two or three generations away. And charisma and appearance on TV mattered.
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:57 PM   #1243
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That was one of the things that really made me start hating politics. I knew that it usually came down to money (ie. the party that raises more money and spend more money typically has a leg up as they can advertise more), but when people started blasting the production quality of a video and that the person speaking didn't have charisma, it was obvious that the American Idol generation was now in firm control.
It has nothing to do with blasting video quality.

First and foremost the media had set a deadline and the Liberal's were late.

Second the video was incompetantly shot, your the official opposition and the second wealthiest party in the country and you can't shoot a video.

Basically the whole thing was balls up and unprofessional.
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Old 04-12-2011, 03:03 PM   #1244
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Its funny with the Liberals, someone really sunk the blade into Dion's back early and often in terms of convincing him about the worlds dumbest platform,
I don't think Dion needed help with that. Well what do you expect when your leadership selection is totally flawed?

He did pretty well for a 3rd place guy, just like Stelmach......
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Old 04-12-2011, 03:07 PM   #1245
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I don't think Dion needed help with that. Well what do you expect when your leadership selection is totally flawed?

He did pretty well for a 3rd place guy, just like Stelmach......
I think that the only way it could have been worse for the Liberals is if Bob Rae had assumed the leadership.

With the Sponser Ship Scandal, combined with Ontario's hatred of Rae, the Liberals' might have ended up with 15 seats and we would have a conservative majority right now.

I think Dion was a pretty honest and honorable guy, but he was sold a rotten platform by his caucus and he was gunned in the back a couple of times on the campaign trail.

And I do agree Stelmach is a lot like Dion, he's a nice man, but he's a raving dunderhead.
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Old 04-12-2011, 03:20 PM   #1246
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You're about as undecided as chemgear in the RE thread.

I've never seen such one-sided indecision.
Your confusing my being undecided with not having an opinion though. I might have no idea who to vote for, but I still read all of this and have an opinion!
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Not as amusing as you drooling over the Republicans.

If they ran up here in Canada the Greens would hand them their ass.
Please point out where I have ever drooled over the Republicans.

Otherwise shut the hell up.
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Old 04-12-2011, 04:44 PM   #1248
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Please point out where I have ever drooled over the Republicans.

Otherwise shut the hell up.
Dude, Elizabeth Hasslebeck is supremely drool-worthy.



I pretty much disagree with every single word that comes out of her pie-hole, but I would do things to that woman that would make Tiger Woods blush.
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Leaders debate time!
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What the hell is Gill Duceppe talking about?
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Old 04-12-2011, 05:08 PM   #1252
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What the hell is Gill Duceppe talking about?
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Old 04-12-2011, 05:10 PM   #1253
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Fake lake count 1.. I bet Ignatieff says fake lake at least 5 times.
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Old 04-12-2011, 05:11 PM   #1254
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Layton makes me gag
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Layton sounds really good. too bad he's a socialist.
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Old 04-12-2011, 05:14 PM   #1256
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Harper really isn't performing well.
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Harper really isn't performing well.
I think hes fine, honestly he'll be on the defensive constantly. It was like that last time, he just needs to stickhandle through the nonsense.
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Harper really isn't performing well.
He's been holding his own so far. All anyone else has done is sling mud. Haven't heard a single idea from any of the other leaders.
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Old 04-12-2011, 05:16 PM   #1259
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Anyone else impressed with the double-dick microphones each candidate seems to be wearing.
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Old 04-12-2011, 05:17 PM   #1260
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He's been holding his own so far. All anyone else has done is sling mud. Haven't heard a single idea from any of the other leaders.
This is exactly the same thing that happened to Martin when he had the minority govt. and Harper was on the other side of the fence then.

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