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Old 04-07-2011, 03:37 PM   #21
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Oh please this. What a sweet proposal that renovation/expansion is.
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Old 04-07-2011, 03:42 PM   #22
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Those who go to concerts (some shows skip calgary because of the dome)
those who go to WWF
those who go to dog shows
monster trucks
conferences
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it's about more than just hockey!
Not to mention the millions and millions of dollars that having an NHL team in a city brings to the local economy. I dont have any link to back it up, but a few years back, I remember reading that the existance of the Flames (as an example) in Calgary adds over $100 million to the local economy each year.

And, an NHL team contributes a lot of money to charities and public works as well.

Both of these aspects seem to be often overlooked when discussing the idea of publicly funding part of a professional arena.
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Not to mention the millions and millions of dollars that having an NHL team in a city brings to the local economy. I dont have any link to back it up, but a few years back, I remember reading that the existance of the Flames (as an example) in Calgary adds over $100 million to the local economy each year.

And, an NHL team contributes a lot of money to charities and public works as well.

Both of these aspects seem to be often overlooked when discussing the idea of publicly funding part of a professional arena.
But Edmonton's already gaining those awards, plus under Katz proposal, Edmonton would lose significant dollars in terms of the current revenue that they gain from Rexall as Katz wants it all.
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Old 04-07-2011, 04:11 PM   #26
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That is an impressive looking building. Something like that would be great to have in the city. Where is it planned to be located?
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Old 04-07-2011, 04:14 PM   #27
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And, an NHL team contributes a lot of money to charities and public works as well.
No more than companies in any other business sector.
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That is an impressive looking building. Something like that would be great to have in the city. Where is it planned to be located?
In the same block it is already located in. Between 1st and 2nd Streets SE, and between 8th and 9th Avenues.

South of Olympic Plaza, West of City Hall.

The curvy atrium thingy would face Olympic Plaza.

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This sucks for Calgary. Edmonton already has a contemporary art museum. This sort of thing should go in Calgary, as it is needed here. It is quite pathetic that a city as rich and large as Calgary still has no contemporary art museum.
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Old 04-07-2011, 05:19 PM   #30
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What is this? A center for ants?
How can we be expected to teach people... if they can't even fit inside the building?
The building has to be at least... three times bigger than this!
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Old 04-07-2011, 05:52 PM   #32
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What is this? A center for ants?
How can we be expected to teach people... if they can't even fit inside the building?
The building has to be at least... three times bigger than this!
I'm laughing, but because I'm pretty sure an SSP forumer made the same joke when those models first came out. Oh internet, never you change.
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Not to mention the millions and millions of dollars that having an NHL team in a city brings to the local economy. I dont have any link to back it up, but a few years back, I remember reading that the existance of the Flames (as an example) in Calgary adds over $100 million to the local economy each year.

And, an NHL team contributes a lot of money to charities and public works as well.

Both of these aspects seem to be often overlooked when discussing the idea of publicly funding part of a professional arena.
I'll bet Encana, for example, puts at least that much into the local economy, and gives to charities and whatnot.

Should the province foot the bill for that giant building downtown?
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Not to mention the millions and millions of dollars that having an NHL team in a city brings to the local economy. I dont have any link to back it up, but a few years back, I remember reading that the existance of the Flames (as an example) in Calgary adds over $100 million to the local economy each year.

And, an NHL team contributes a lot of money to charities and public works as well.

Both of these aspects seem to be often overlooked when discussing the idea of publicly funding part of a professional arena.
Is there any information from a non NHL economist to back this up? The only extra money coming in would be from non Calgary fans and from what a team spends in the city.

If anything it costs alot more than it brings in $ wise. The majority of money going to the Flames comes from the residents of Calgary which would spend their dollar somewhere else no supporting millionaires to travel to games on private planes.
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There have been credible reports that conclude removing a pro sports team from an American market would have.a minimal impact on the local economy, but that is not consensus.
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This sort of thing should go in Calgary, as it is needed here.
It's called the Glenbow.
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Those who go to concerts (some shows skip calgary because of the dome)
those who go to WWF
those who go to dog shows
monster trucks
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it's about more than just hockey!



I was there! It was awesome!

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Not to mention the millions and millions of dollars that having an NHL team in a city brings to the local economy. I dont have any link to back it up, but a few years back, I remember reading that the existance of the Flames (as an example) in Calgary adds over $100 million to the local economy each year.

And, an NHL team contributes a lot of money to charities and public works as well.

Both of these aspects seem to be often overlooked when discussing the idea of publicly funding part of a professional arena.
Lots of economists have written books on the subject of new arenas and the impact they have on the local economy (try Andrew Zimbalist if you're interested in the subject) and the overwhelming consensus is there is a very minimal impact. Pro sports teams always have their studies and information that says otherwise, but I'll take the analysis of a third party economist over what the Flames try and tell us anyday.
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I'm a hockey fan and even I think comparing an arena to a museum is ridiculous.
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At the end of the day both are important to building a vibrant good city, but if there's one area in Calgary that really needs a boost in, it's the realm of museum/art facilities. At the moment it's woefully underrepresented considering the size of the city (and it's corresponding ego). Let's face it, the Glenbow is an old and dank dinosaur, and the current Epcor is severely lacking in space. And where's that modern museum we've been promise for 20-30 years now?

I agree that if Edmonton is getting this, the province better be ponying up on the Epcor expansion.
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