Bone Marrow

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

hey I was wondering if anyone on here was a bone marrow donor. I was thinking of signing up for that and I was just wondering if anyone here could provide some insight on to what I would be looking forward to (stuff along the lines of the liklihood that I would be called upon).

Thanks.

EDIT I was able to find all the info that I need although it would be good to hear someone talk about pain and stuff like that,

[Calgary Flames]

No offense Maxwell, but I'm noticing you're trying to get back on everybody's good side with post's like this one and the Sept 11th thread...

Nothing wrong with it, just something I noticed... or i'm just looney.

[CaptainCrunch]

I signed up for it, I got tested once when they thought that I would be a match, that was a few years ago. the test is pretty unpleasant, I don't know if its changed now, but they took a sample out of my hip using a needle that I swear was 3 feet in width.

The actual procedure didn't hurt, it was uncomfortable. It was after the freezing wore off that I felt the pain.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally posted by SuperNilson@Sep 12 2004, 01:32 AM
No offense Maxwell, but I'm noticing you're trying to get back on everybody's good side with post's like this one and the Sept 11th thread...

Nothing wrong with it, just something I noticed...

No I couldn't give a damn I am merely asking for some info. I couldn't give a damn what you thought of me for donating bone marrow, that would be the worst and I mean worst reason for becoming a donor.

Thanks Captain. I just filled out all the forms and what not for that and I figure, if it is even a possibility that I will help someone why the hell not. Minor discomfort/pain or someone else dying.... let me think about that one....

[Calgary Flames]

In any case, I respect what you're doing Maxwell. I'm a wimp when it comes to this stuff, Blood test's freak me out. -_-

[Krackt420]

Me too.

It's not that I have a needle phobia or anything, but I've yet to have blood taken without passing out.

I've got really wonky blood sugar. I forgot to eat before I went last time and the lady said she'd never seen anything like it...she thought I was having a seizure.

[BlackArcher101]

Is it wrong to donate blood just to find out if you have West Nile?

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally posted by BlackArcher101@Sep 12 2004, 02:09 AM
Is it wrong to donate blood just to find out if you have West Nile?

What?

Go to your doctor and get tested for WestNile if you think you have it

Don't waste the Red Crosses time

[BlackArcher101]

Originally posted by CaptainCrunch@Sep 11 2004, 10:17 PM
Go to your doctor and get tested for WestNile if you think you have it

Don't waste the Red Crosses time

I don't think I have it, it was just a question on morals that I heard in class today.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally posted by BlackArcher101+Sep 12 2004, 02:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BlackArcher101 @ Sep 12 2004, 02:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-CaptainCrunch@Sep 11 2004, 10:17 PM
Go to your doctor and get tested for WestNile if you think you have it

Don't waste the Red Crosses time

I don't think I have it, it was just a question on morals that I heard in class today. [/b][/quote]
So you donate blood to find out you have West Nile when they test it. Is that the question. How does that involve morals?

Edit: Ethics to morals.

[BlackArcher101]

Originally posted by Mean Mr. Mustard@Sep 11 2004, 10:34 PM
So you donate blood to find out you have West Nile when they test it. Is that the question. How does that involve morals?

Edit: Ethics to morals.

Is it moral only to donate blood to find out if you have a west nile, not to donate because you want to help others. Moral: concerned with the judgment of the goodness or badness of human action and character

It's really a no brainer, I just posted it for fun after it popped into my mind.

[calf]

Originally posted by BlackArcher101+Sep 11 2004, 08:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BlackArcher101 @ Sep 11 2004, 08:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mean Mr. Mustard@Sep 11 2004, 10:34 PM
So you donate blood to find out you have West Nile when they test it. Is that the question. How does that involve morals?

Edit: Ethics to morals.

Is it moral only to donate blood to find out if you have a west nile, not to donate because you want to help others. Moral: concerned with the judgment of the goodness or badness of human action and character

It's really a no brainer, I just posted it for fun after it popped into my mind. [/b][/quote]
Since this thread's going this way now, I'll put in my two cents.

I would say it's 'moral' (I'm not really sure if it's the right word, but I'll go with it) to donate blood because you want to save a strangers life.

If you're donating blood just to find out if you have WNV, it's not moral. You're doing a good thing, but your motivations aren't "moral" and "good"...you know?

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

The thing is you are asked about West Nile on the questionare and that is something that would definantly not be moral if you filled that out incorrectly. I think I am understanding the question though.

But they test the blood so I would say if you donate the blood then well that is still a good thing and moral.

[BlackArcher101]

I think if your intention is to help others, then it's moral. If it's just to find out if you have WNV, then it's not moral.

Amazingly, my class got into a heated debate on this one question and ended up in a tie. So basically, it was a waste of a Saturday morning.

[RougeUnderoos]

Doesn't sound immoral to me. Two birds with one stone. Who gets hurt? Not you and not them, so who?

Just wondering... what kind of class do you take on a Saturday morning? Is it a regular university class, or something else (like church or something)?

[BlackArcher101]

It was in my geography class which is about the environment and people and how we effect each other. Prof started talking about viruses, where they come from, then somehow it ended up in a heated debate about the topic. It was on a Saturday because in typical Thunder Bay fashion, they decided to screw the students. Apparently there had to be a make up day because they didn't have enough time in the year. At least it's the only weekend class this whole semester. Had 4 weekend classes in the summer. Thunder Bay is really weird, avoid at all costs.

[CaptainCrunch]

I don't know about the morality of the issue. however, if person A was at risk of something like the West Nile virus, or Aids or any other type of blood disease and decided to use blood doning as a quick test you have to consider this.

We've seen disease get through the tests. What if one of the lab techs is having a bad day and your infected blood gets through and infects people. Who's criminally responsible if you knew you were at rish and informed somebody.

Its happened before and nothing is impossible

[Inferno]

Originally posted by SuperNilson@Sep 11 2004, 08:42 PM
I'm a wimp when it comes to this stuff, Blood test's freak me out. -_-

When I was a kid I was terrified of needles. I still remember the first time I got a blood test since I was a kid and the doctor said I looked like I was about to pass out. After that I wasnt afraid anymore but the other day I went to the doctor for a physical and he wanted a blood test and man did that needle sting like a bitch. I figured it would be like a pinch but it was like someone jabbed a screwdriver in my arm. It ached for an hour or so after and now I have a big bruise.

[Cube Inmate]

Originally posted by CaptainCrunch+Sep 12 2004, 12:32 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (CaptainCrunch @ Sep 12 2004, 12:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I don't know about the morality of the issue. however, if person A was at risk of something like the West Nile virus, or Aids or any other type of blood disease and decided to use blood doning as a quick test you have to consider this.

We've seen disease get through the tests. What if one of the lab techs is having a bad day and your infected blood gets through and infects people. Who's criminally responsible if you knew you were at rish and informed somebody.

Its happened before and nothing is impossible[/b]

You're given the option, after filling your donation, of putting a bar code on it that tells the Canadian Blood Services (no longer Red Cross) whether your blood should be used or not. This is a system that allows people to confidentially tell them that their blood shouldn't be used, in case they're reluctant to truthfully answer the questionnaire.

<!--QuoteBegin-www.bloodservices.ca
Confidential Unit Exclusion Label

There may be circumstances where a donor may not answer the Record of Donation questionnaire truthfully. In some cases, owing to the personal nature of the questions, a donor may be uncomfortable with providing certain pieces of information. In other cases, donors may be reluctant to tell friends, family or colleagues that they have been deferred—and thus continue with the donation to avoid answering uncomfortable questions.

To guard against such situations, the CBS employee provides the donor with two bar-coded labels. One indicates that the donor’s blood can be used and the other asks that the blood not be used. Once the appropriate sticker has been placed on the Record of Donation, no one at the clinic can determine which one was chosen. It is only later, in the laboratory, that a technician will scan the label with a bar-code reader before the unit is processed to determine whether or not it may be used.[/quote]

I'd say if you suspect yourself of a disease and use the "don't use my blood" label, you should be able to sleep at night with no moral qualms. If you use the other label in an attempt just to get yourself tested, putting your faith in the tests...probably immoral. No matter what, sounds like it was probably an interesting debate to keep you awake on a Saturday, BA...

...actually, I dunno if they still test the blood if a "no" label is on it, or just toss it out the window...

[Cowboy]

Bio Ethics is a fantastic class for this type of discussion. I took it

One of things you have to ask yourself when dealing with morality is "Would you have a problem with everyone else in the world doing the same thing"

Anyway interesting class if you guys get a chance to take Philosophy option (don't like philosophy but this was great.)