South Koreans buried millions of pigs alive (WARNING: DISTURBING VIDEO)

[Jake]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Another thing to consider is timeliness. While 3 million sounds like a lot, the reality is that this only accounted for 20% of their total stock. To delay killing the contaminated stock by using a more humane practice would have run the risk of exposing even more of the stock to disease. Killing each one with a bullet or knife would not only take considerably longer, but now you have the issue of cleaning up a highly contagious mess. To the person who suggested simply releasing massive amounts of chlorine gas into an open pit... dude...

It would be interesting if anyone here knows of a more humane yet equally effective method to exterminate such a large stock like that.

Regardless of the cost or length of time that would take to put down all of the animals, in my opinion if you take that many animals into your "care" or business their welfare is your responsibility. That includes putting them down in a humane way.

I don't know enough about the disease to make a comment about how high the risk to humans would be in putting the animals down humanely, but that would change the situation.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Jake

Regardless of the cost or length of time that would take to put down all of the animals, in my opinion if you take that many animals into your "care" or business their welfare is your responsibility. That includes putting them down in a humane way.

I don't know enough about the disease to make a comment about how high the risk to humans would be in putting the animals down humanely, but that would change the situation.

Length of time is important because the longer the contaminated pigs are alive, the better chance they have of spreading disease. Remember, 80% of the stock didn't have to be killed, presumably because they acted quickly.

[Ozy_Flame]

Too much snow falling in the video, I didn't get a good enough view.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by Pinner

You could be right potluck,a head shot at point blank could get messy. A shot through the lungs would work, easy from a distance.

Do you even know what you are taking about? a shot to the lungs? That won't kill a pig instantly if at all. It's not easy to kill a large animal with a .22.

I think the better solution would to have been to Gas them all with CO or CO2.

[moncton golden flames]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

I think the better solution would to have been to Gas them all with CO or CO2.

the best solution is to not raise pigs industrially on massive scales where diseases and pathogens can run rampant thru an entire population, resulting in this type of execution.

[Caged Great]

I did not watch the video. I can imagine the horrors involved, but really there isn't a huge amount that could've been done outside of gassing them. They really should've done that, and they're major ______ for not spending the money to do it humanely.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by moncton golden flames

the best solution is to not raise pigs industrially on massive scales where diseases and pathogens can run rampant thru an entire population, resulting in this type of execution.

Well that's great and all, unfortunately the population of the earth requires more than free grazing animals. It's what we're stuck with.

[Canada 02]

World Organization for Animal Health says that for large scale culls the "proper" way to do this could be captive bolt followed by pithing or electrocution followed by pithing. When FMD outbreaks hit the UK, this was their culling method. Both the Canadian and American Veterinary Medical Assoc. recommend this as well

if i understand correctly, captive bolt is firing a metal rod into the head of the animal.

Despite these recommendations, they say there are drawbacks because there is significant human interaction with the animals during the procedure

[GirlySports]

I think this was the only way. They didn't have to film it though.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by moncton golden flames

the best solution is to not raise pigs industrially on massive scales where diseases and pathogens can run rampant thru an entire population, resulting in this type of execution.

Well, with 7 Billion people on the planet, this is the only way to feed everyone.

[nik-]

It's not the fact that they're dying that's really the problem, more so that it was unnecessarily cruel.

[moncton golden flames]

Originally Posted by nik-

Well that's great and all, unfortunately the population of the earth requires more than free grazing animals. It's what we're stuck with.

it's this kind of sentiment that allows the industrial food system to continue the way it is. by you saying 'it's what we're stuck with', you are essentially ignoring the issue and allowing the current conditions to continue unchecked.

[moncton golden flames]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

Well, with 7 Billion people on the planet, this is the only way to feed everyone.

completely false. there are ways to live in food abundance, and the industrial system is not it.

you want to see how cattle should be raised and how we can properly feed the world? do some research into permaculture or joel salatin and polyface farms. salatin's simple methods can feed the world, but it's sentiment like yours and many others on this board that just don't care enough to try to make a change.

i find it alarming to see how many people only care about the 'cheapest' food option, completely ignoring the nutritional aspect, which is the most essential thing to consider.

if we really are what we eat, i suspect that most of us have no idea what we are.

[FlamesPuck12]

Originally Posted by moncton golden flames

completely false. there are ways to live in food abundance, and the industrial system is not it.

you want to see how cattle should be raised and how we can properly feed the world? do some research into permaculture or joel salatin and polyface farms. salatin's simple methods can feed the world, but it's sentiment like yours and many others on this board that just don't care enough to try to make a change.

i find it alarming to see how many people only care about the 'cheapest' food option, completely ignoring the nutritional aspect, which is the most essential thing to consider.

if we really are what we eat, i suspect that most of us have no idea what we are.

I find it alarming to see how you don't understand that many people in the world cannot afford more expensive food. There are many people in the world having trouble putting food on their table. So yes, cheapest food options may not matter to you but it does matter to those people.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by moncton golden flames

completely false. there are ways to live in food abundance, and the industrial system is not it.

you want to see how cattle should be raised and how we can properly feed the world? do some research into permaculture or joel salatin and polyface farms. salatin's simple methods can feed the world, but it's sentiment like yours and many others on this board that just don't care enough to try to make a change.

Got any links on how this is a viable alternative that could work globally? It would be interesting to see whether it actually possible for the world to get by on local foodsheds. I haven't really done any research on it, but I have heard that it is not economically feasible.

i find it alarming to see how many people only care about the 'cheapest' food option, completely ignoring the nutritional aspect, which is the most essential thing to consider.

Equally alarming is how people seem to be oblivious to the fact that their own personal situation is not comparable to 90% of the world's population. Pork is the most efficient animal protein there is, and it is because of the way they can be mass raised. Take that away and worldwide food prices would skyrocket. Sure, maybe you are willing to pay more for locally grown produce and livestock, but the point is, there are many people in this world that simply aren't able to.

if we really are what we eat, i suspect that most of us have no idea what we are.

Thankfully, that is just a stupid saying that has no seating in reality.

[TylerSVT]

Originally Posted by moncton golden flames

completely false. there are ways to live in food abundance, and the industrial system is not it.

you want to see how cattle should be raised and how we can properly feed the world? do some research into permaculture or joel salatin and polyface farms. salatin's simple methods can feed the world, but it's sentiment like yours and many others on this board that just don't care enough to try to make a change.

i find it alarming to see how many people only care about the 'cheapest' food option, completely ignoring the nutritional aspect, which is the most essential thing to consider.

if we really are what we eat, i suspect that most of us have no idea what we are.

Go take an economics class and maybe you will understand why many of those "solutions" will never work.

They are all fundamentally flawed.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by fotze

Do we thank the Germans for killiing the jews 'pain free' with gas? No, the killing part is what we focus on.

Wut.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by fotze

Do we thank the Germans for killiing the jews 'pain free' with gas? No, the killing part is what we focus on.

Really man?

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by fotze

Do we thank the Germans for killiing the jews 'pain free' with gas?

I do.

God bless those compassionate Krauts.

[Tinordi]

Zyklon gas was anything but pain free. Do some research.