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Old 03-26-2011, 11:12 AM   #21
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"The canucks aren't getting out of the first round" - wheelchair guy

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Awesome, hey? I've dealt with people in wheelchairs. There's no reason to pry him out of a wheelchair like that. If there's a mental problem with the patient, you step back and call police back-up if necessary. No need to hurl him out of the chair, regardless of what the issue is.
Apparently also no reason to watch the linked story...
This is not a guy in a wheelchair, it's a drink guy placed into a wheel chair by the paramedic.

I'm not saying that justifies the actions, but this shouldn't be at all discussed as a guy in a wheel chair getting pulled out of it. In fact, the wheel chair is an irrelevant part of the story.
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Old 03-26-2011, 05:30 PM   #23
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Paramedic does not equal police officer. Wheelchair is irrelevant - what is relevant, however, is the paramedic not having the right to forcibly push the guy onto the ground and restrain him that way.
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Old 03-26-2011, 05:32 PM   #24
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Paramedic does not equal police officer. Wheelchair is irrelevant - what is relevant, however, is the paramedic not having the right to forcibly push the guy onto the ground and restrain him that way.
Why? Anyone has the right to restrain someone if they are being assaulted.

At first I was disgusted with his actions because I thought he was handi-capped, but apparently not so I don't think it was that bad.
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Why? Anyone has the right to restrain someone if they are being assaulted.

At first I was disgusted with his actions because I thought he was handi-capped, but apparently not so I don't think it was that bad.
What? The paramedic wasn't being assaulted.
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Old 03-26-2011, 05:38 PM   #26
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What? The paramedic wasn't being assaulted.
I would call being kicked an assault. Watch the video again, the guy takes two kicks at the paramedic just before he is thrown down.


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Old 03-26-2011, 05:46 PM   #27
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The paramedic is sitting at a pub with his buddies talking about a big fight he got in where he tossed the guy around. Good on him.
Seriously though, I loved the comment about how the paramedic was trying to prevent the man from wandering into the streets. The guy wasnt even moving.
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Old 03-26-2011, 05:46 PM   #28
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Drunk got was probably being a jackass. I don't really see an issue with the video... it was actually funny.

I've been the drunk jackass before. I've been thrown on my head a few times, and I deserved it.
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I would call being kicked an assault. Watch the video again, the guy takes two kicks at the paramedic just before he is thrown down.

You mean after the paramedic had already lain hands on him, yes? Who was doing the defending in that case, again?
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Drunk got was probably being a jackass. I don't really see an issue with the video... it was actually funny.
Oh yeah, that's hilarious.

He must have said something to that paramedic to set him off. What do you think it was?
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Old 03-26-2011, 06:29 PM   #31
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crap journalism if you ask me, all in an effort to draw ratings.
  • overstate the severity of the situation- check
  • find someone to speak to the rights of the individual being abused- check
  • report the story before getting all the facts- check
now lets look at what we do know for sure;
  • This guy was clearly not in need of a wheelchair. he was kicking his legs.
  • This guy was intoxicated
  • The paramedics were involved because someone thought this individual was in need of help and unable to care for himself.
  • a service was called to help this individual get home because it was felt he was unable to do so safely himself
  • This guy was clearly resisting the very individual that was sent there to help him
  • He was lucky the cops weren't called and him placed under arrest for public intoxication
If this guy pulled out his keys and jumped in his car, drove away and killed himself or someone else while this paramedic did nothing, we'd all be up in arms as to why nothing was done.
I can't tell you how many times buddies have had to restrain me when i was drunk from doing something stupid. I was lucky they did.
so give me a f'n break with all this bull#### about abuse. he was dealing with a drunk, anyone who's ever had to deal with a drunk friend, family member... knows what a #### job that is.
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The drunk may have deserved it but you don't put your hands on someone else. The paramedic has probably received training in this aspect of his job, he's a professional, so he has no excuse. Probably a suspension should be in order.
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I haven't even watched the video but I'm going to side with the cripple guy. I have dealt with paramedics on 2 seperate occassions and both times they were complete aholes.
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I haven't even watched the video but I'm going to side with the cripple guy. I have dealt with paramedics on 2 seperate occassions and both times they were complete aholes.
Guy wasn't a cripple. He was too drunk to stand on his feet and needed a wheel chair.
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Guy wasn't a cripple. He was too drunk to stand on his feet and needed a wheel chair.
My bad. Should have made it more obvious I was kidding. I really haven't bothered to watch the vid but I gathered that he wasn't a cripple from reading the thread.

Poking fun at people who have a tendency to see threads like this and use their one or two personal experiences to somehow blanket an entire profession.

Although I really did have 2 horrible experiences with paramedics and it has caused me to at least ponder if it is an industry wide problem.
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This is not a guy in a wheelchair
Sure it is.

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I'm not saying that justifies the actions, but this shouldn't be at all discussed as a guy in a wheel chair getting pulled out of it. In fact, the wheel chair is an irrelevant part of the story.
I only saw him being hurled out of the chair without the back story, so I was unaware he wasn't handicapped, however; the main focus of my post wasn't the fact he needed wheelchair, but that he was thrown out of it. There's no need for it.
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Although I really did have 2 horrible experiences with paramedics and it has caused me to at least ponder if it is an industry wide problem.
It is. Many paramedics (and EMTs) have an authority complex. Some of them are just burnt out. On the otherside though; there are a lot more that are awesome people and take very good care of their patients.
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Exactly. It's just like some paramedics don't have the wherewithal to make a hilarious video yanking a dude out of a wheelchair. And some do.
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Old 03-26-2011, 07:37 PM   #39
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Paramedic thought the fella was about to have an alcoholic seizure.

Threw him to the ground for his own safety.

Great work. Probably saved the fellas life.
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since were speculating based on the small amount of video we do see. i'm going to say the drunk pulled a grenade from his black briefcase before throwing it to the ground with the intent of blowing up a school bus full of sick kids and puppies. the paramedic is a hero, he should be praised.
honestly, how can anyone condemn the medic without even knowing the whole story?
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