02-17-2011, 10:48 AM
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#121
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Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck
I glossed over it because it is expected that the police help people and do a good job. It is what they are paid for, and good on that officer for saving the girl from injury.
It is not expected that they beat and shoot relatively harmless people however....
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Hey - we still comment about how awful your posts are even though it's expected from you!!
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02-17-2011, 12:03 PM
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#122
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Originally Posted by Coys1882
Hey - we still comment about how awful your posts are even though it's expected from you!! 
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No, you comment on my posts because I have an opposing view that you disagree with, and people for the most part can't handle that.
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02-17-2011, 12:05 PM
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#123
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Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck
No, you comment on my posts because I have an opposing view that you disagree with, and people for the most part can't handle that.
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People can handle opposing viewpoints, but they can't handle people who argue with little logic, and ignore counterpoints that prove them wrong. (Not specifically this thread, but just your debating style in general)
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02-17-2011, 12:05 PM
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#124
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Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck
No, you comment on my posts because I have an opposing view that you disagree with, and people for the most part can't handle that.
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They can, but more often than not it is inappropriately.
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02-17-2011, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by flameswin
People can handle opposing viewpoints, but they can't handle people who argue with little logic, and ignore counterpoints that prove them wrong. (Not specifically this thread, but just your debating style in general)
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I've rarely been proven wrong, although I admit not putting enough energy/effort into some posts.
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02-17-2011, 12:50 PM
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#126
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Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck
I've rarely been proven wrong, although I admit not putting enough energy/effort into some posts.
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So, at times, you post without putting enough energy/effort into some posts to make it look like you argue with little logic, and then ignore counterpoints that prove you wrong?
I'll keep that in mind for now on.... he's not dim witted, he's just lazy.
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02-17-2011, 02:40 PM
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#127
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck
I glossed over it because it is expected that the police help people and do a good job. It is what they are paid for, and good on that officer for saving the girl from injury.
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i'd say you glossed over it because it doesn't fit with your clear anti-police agenda.
people are quick to jump on incidents involving bad apple cops or lapses in judgement, but are just as quick to completely ignore what a cop's job involves on a daily basis. your quote above is a perfect example. cop saves a girl's life and gets his leg shattered, but hey, that's what he gets paid for.
really? a cop gets paid to help people and put himself in danger every day? you would think that's something that deserves at least some respect - yet people like you just shrug it off like its nothing. maybe it makes it easier for you to see all cops as pricks when you completely ignore and downplay everything they do, except when it's negative.
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02-17-2011, 02:46 PM
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#128
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Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck
I glossed over it because it is expected that the police help people and do a good job. It is what they are paid for, and good on that officer for saving the girl from injury.
It is not expected that they beat and shoot relatively harmless people however....
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So you say that cops doing a good job and acting unselfishly is expected, which would imply it's the norm.
You then go on to say that becasue it's expected/the norm that it should be ignored in discussions about the behavior of cops.
So if cops acting properly is the norm, why then do you seem to always jump to the conclusion and actively try to spread the idea that all cops are horrible people who at least codone, if not actively participate, in the rare incidents that just about everyone agrees are cops acting in a way that no one should, regardless of their job description?
I love that style of debate.
You belive that an entire profession is corrupt and to back up your argument you admit the reality is the exact oposite of your premise but still present the extreme actions of a small minority, as representative of the majority, who's behavior you've already admitted is not what you are presenting.
Makes perfect sense to me.
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02-17-2011, 05:22 PM
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#130
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Mind if we merge this into a thread also about how I hate teachers?
http://www.hottforteacher.com/
PEDERASTS AND USURPERS OF INNOCENCE THE LOT OF THEM!!!
Vile creatures they are! Home school your children before they are buggered by these sex crazed lunatics I say.
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02-17-2011, 05:36 PM
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#131
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Also, I hate school bus drivers.
One time, I received a "bus misconduct" when I was in grade 5. I think I was a little unruly and liked to crawl under the seats and stuff. I didn't think it was well deserved and ever since then I haven't trusted a one of 'em. They are all bad apples.
Also, and I hate to add insult to injury, but Mikey, you go destroyed there.
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03-26-2011, 08:20 AM
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I wonder how many people this cop has assaulted. The other guy he beat last summer was a guy towing his own boat that the cop thought was stolen, the cop punched him out while he was still siting in his truck  haven't heard about the third assault yet.
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An RCMP officer in Kelowna is facing two charges of assault -one in the case of the Buddy Tavares arrest, and a second one involving an unpublicized arrest of another man in Kelowna.
And he is also being investigated on a third assault charge during an arrest.
Read more: http://www.theprovince.com/news/RCMP...#ixzz1HiL8Pz4K
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03-26-2011, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Pinner
I wonder how many people this cop has assaulted. The other guy he beat last summer was a guy towing his own boat that the cop thought was stolen, the cop punched him out while he was still siting in his truck  haven't heard about the third assault yet.
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I too wonder that... probably millions... he is a cop afterall.
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03-26-2011, 12:22 PM
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Police have recommended charges for 3 assaults he committed in only a 5 month period.
It's reasonable to assume not all assaults committed by Police are reported, of those that are reported, it's also reasonable to assume only a small percentage of those would be serious enough for the Police to recommend charges against a fellow officer.
Then the Crown needs enough evidence for a conviction...you know the routine
So ya, I do wonder how many people this punk with a badge has beaten and got away with it. Just sayin, if you want to believe these are the only victims, go ahead.
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03-26-2011, 12:24 PM
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please, please, please let him go to prison and we will see how tough he is
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03-26-2011, 12:41 PM
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He's still getting paid for his public service
I hope more victims come out of the woodwork when they realize he won't be on the street again and able to make their life "difficult".
It takes a brave person to come forward against a cop, especially after you've been physically beaten.
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03-26-2011, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Pinner
Police have recommended charges for 3 assaults he committed in only a 5 month period.
It's reasonable to assume not all assaults committed by Police are reported, of those that are reported, it's also reasonable to assume only a small percentage of those would be serious enough for the Police to recommend charges against a fellow officer.
Then the Crown needs enough evidence for a conviction...you know the routine
So ya, I do wonder how many people this punk with a badge has beaten and got away with it. Just sayin, if you want to believe these are the only victims, go ahead. 
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Read up on police internal investigations and how complaints are dealt with. Might do you some good.
It might be reasonable to assume that assaults committed by police are actually over reported.
The police don't recommend charges. In Alberta, ALL criminal complaints depending on the type of criminal act are investigated by either the service themselves or ASIRT. ALL of those investigations are then turned over to the crown (usually in another city) who make the final decision.
Your general disdain for police clouds your judgment and your ability to make any rational post on the subject.
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03-26-2011, 03:24 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by Pinner
He's still getting paid for his public service
I hope more victims come out of the woodwork when they realize he won't be on the street again and able to make their life "difficult".
It takes a brave person to come forward against a cop, especially after you've been physically beaten.
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are you still talking?
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03-26-2011, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bent Wookie
The police don't recommend charges.
Your general disdain for police clouds your judgment and your ability to make any rational post on the subject.
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Call it "disdain for police" if you like, but if "Joe Anybody" kicked that guy in the face like that, I'd be upset and want justice. The fact that he is a Police officer on the job is absolutely disgusting.
Two more assaults in the previous months (probably more) makes this cop a POS and you're saying MY judgement is clouded..
If you love cops as much as it seems, I would think you would want the cops like this locked up like the disgrace to good cops they are. If I was a cop I would want these punk cops gone ! Bust my ass to be a good cop and some punk w/3-4 yr's in, destroys the forces image...I think not.
You sure police don't recommend charges to the Crown ? I hear that on the news all the time.
From the link I provided:
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In addition, police have recommended a third charge of assault causing bodily harm against Mantler relating to the arrest of Jeremy Packer, who says he was punched several times when police stopped him on the Bennett Bridge on Aug. 10. Prosecutors have yet to approve that charge.
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03-26-2011, 03:38 PM
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#140
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Ben
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: God's Country (aka Cape Breton Island)
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Originally Posted by Pinner
Then the Crown needs enough evidence for a conviction...you know the routine 
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Heaven forbid requiring enough evidence for a conviction. Damn that reasonable doubt threshold! We shouldn't waste taxpayers money with a trial, and investigation, let's just lock up anyone accused of a crime. I mean they wouldn't be accused if they were innocent right?
Damn out system of fairness
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