And I am disgusted by all of you who stated that same sex couples should not be allowed to adopt on the basis of potential stigmatization by school yard bullies. Lets blame the victims, perfect argument; why not attack the attitudes that cause the discrimination against these children instead of demonizing a couples desire for a family.
Just wanted to say, I completely agree with this statement above.
The argument people use to deny same sex couples from adopting is like saying "hey, make sure your kids aren't chubby or awkward so the bullies don't pick on them".
And I am disgusted by all of you who stated that same sex couples should not be allowed to adopt on the basis of potential stigmatization by school yard bullies. Lets blame the victims, perfect argument; why not attack the attitudes that cause the discrimination against these children instead of demonizing a couples desire for a family.
It's worse than that... disallowing adoption by gays perpetuates the idea that they are somehow inferior. It's blaming the victim, then oppressing them further.
So gays can't adopt because bigots might make fun of their kids, so we're gonna discriminate against gays and show the bigots that that's okay.
Besides, kids learn a lot from their parents. If the parents are discriminating against same sex couples, that attitude may very well pass down to their kids, making them discriminate against kids in their class who may have same sex couples for parents. Who is then at fault? I'll give you a hint. It's not the loving couple who adopted the kid.
I find it funny that you fail to give a response to my post because you know that everything i wrote is true.
In your last post you called my previous statements stupid twice and you also called me an idiot. Why should I respond to that. Your post lacked anything worth commenting on.
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In your last post you called my previous statements stupid twice and you also called me an idiot. Why should I respond to that. Your post lacked anything worth commenting on.
Judging by the responses in this thread, my sentiments are shared by the population.
And you won't back up your claims. You are a major joke on this website, a troll and most of what you type is pure rubbish. You also do not respond to your accusations and allegations yet entice people into 'debate'.
If you are going to pull my name into a thread be prepared to defend your comments. I am fairly certain that many names you have been called have been warranted, based on your outlandish claims on this website. There is rarely a thread where people have not found you to be a tinfoil hat wearing ignorant fool. Your lack of education has been pointed out numerous times. Do you still not get the hint?
Your arrogance is astounding..
I'm not going to sift through your post history to prove something I already know.
You and others like you enjoy attacking people that hold opinions contrary to the popular view. What outlandish claims have I made lately?
Not sure where the tinfoil hat thing comes in besides from the 9-11 thread, but I care not.
Are all people who don't agree with gay marriage tin foil hat wearers too?
I'm glad people like you don't make the decisions in our world.
You do realize that if you were in the situation you probably wouldnt have grown up learning that homosexuality is wrong... and therefore wouldnt be opposed to it. Biology cannot teach you things like hate and morals, those are social creations, you are a product of your environment. You grew up in an obviously homophobic environment, my children wont.
I wasn't brought up and taught that homosexuality was wrong at all. My parents never even talked about it. I'm heterosexual, so the thought of guys thrusting themselves in and out of each other disgusts me... imagine that. I don't buy that I would be more tolerant of it if I had been raised by homosexuals. In fact, i think it would make me even more disgusted by homosexuals because of the very fact i was raised by some of them against my will. I dislike my parents for a lot of reasons that i haven't just gotten used to because of the fact i was raised by them. Why the hell would i just get used to my parents being homosexual.
Do you honestly think that a kid who grows up with two dads or two moms is going to be just like you? Do you honestly think that thinking being gay is wrong is something someone is born with, and not something that is learned?
What would you be furious about? That a gay couple decided a child was better off having two loving parents instead of being forgoteen about? Would you be furious if those parents taught you to be tolerant of people's differences? What monsters those parents would be eh?
I don't think being gay is wrong. I understand that they are born that way. What i think is wrong is letting them raise children. I don't buy that every single kid is just going to accept gay parents as willingly as so many of you seem to believe they will.
I'm heterosexual, so the thought of guys thrusting themselves in and out of each other disgusts me... imagine that.
But it's ok if it's two girls, right?
I'm heterosexual, and the thought of two guys doesn't disgust me. It's not 'my thing', but who am I (and who are you?) to tell two adults what they can and can't do, just because I (or you) don't like it?
I'm not particularly fond of Christian zealots (way too many of 'em in the family tree)...but you don't see me out there, discriminating against them.
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I don't think being gay is wrong. I understand that they are born that way. What i think is wrong is letting them raise children. I don't buy that every single kid is just going to accept gay parents as willingly as so many of you seem to believe they will.
I have spent all my working life trying to help effed up kids, sex offendors, murderers, granny rapers, gang members, gib tech tweakers and drunken junkies of every shade and stripe...
All of them had hetrosexual parents, to the extent they were parented at all.
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I'm heterosexual, and the thought of two guys doesn't disgust me. It's not 'my thing', but who am I (and who are you?) to tell two adults what they can and can't do, just because I (or you) don't like it?
I'm not particularly fond of Christian zealots (way too many of 'em in the family tree)...but you don't see me out there, discriminating against them.
I can't tell anybody what to do. I have no power over anybody. All i can do is give my opinion and that's all I've done. I have no problem with what they do between the sheets, but i have a problem with them raising children when i believe it could have adverse psychological effects on the child.
I have spent all my working life trying to help effed up kids, sex offendors, murderers, granny rapers, gang members, gib tech tweakers and drunken junkies of every shade and stripe...
All of them had hetrosexual parents, to the extent they were parented at all.
I'm sure the fact that the ratio of people who have been raised by heterosexuals to people who have been raised by homosexuals is so high has nothing to do with that.
I don't think being gay is wrong. I understand that they are born that way. What i think is wrong is letting them raise children. I don't buy that every single kid is just going to accept gay parents as willingly as so many of you seem to believe they will.
How do kids "accept" parents exactly? I don't remember the Acceptance Ceremony when I was a kid. Your parents are your parents. There is no accepting.
It's no different than saying white people shouldn't be allowed to raise non-white children, because every single non-white kid might not "accept" white parents.
It doesn't make sense.
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I don't buy that every single kid is just going to accept gay parents as willingly as so many of you seem to believe they will.
I can't think of a more misguided comment that I've ever seen on this board. Children will accept love regardless of the gender of their parents, unconditional love is unconditional. The actions of those parents are what govern if a child will accept them in their later years.
Two loving gay men who would instill a sense of morals, self esteem and love for life would raise my children every single time over the traditional married couple who I see screwing up children's lives with pettiness, selfishness and general uppity behavior on what seems a daily basis.
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I'm sure the fact that the ratio of people who have been raised by heterosexuals to people who have been raised by homosexuals is so high has nothing to do with that.
I'm willing to bet you don't know anybody who is gay do you? Your opinions, and you are perfectly entitled to them, remind me of the opinion people had of gays during the 70's. Deviants living a sinful life in the shadows, spreading disease and godlessness.
