2010/2011 Premier League Thread

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Montana Moe

Szczesny is a jokester, it was during a fan forum. Nothing to see here.

You can tell its tongue in cheek, but Lehman being a nutcase is nothing new and as for comments in regards to the defence, well, that match against West Brom indicates he certainly has a case.

But yes, hes clearly joking.

[d_phaneuf]

ya he may have been joking, but its not like he joked about Fabregas or Wilshere being bad

he joked about things that are true

that can't be good for team morale

[d_phaneuf]

stay classy Jack
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-23001916/

first he and his friends beat up someone outside a club, now this

continuing the tradition of being a member of the England football team

[SeoulFire]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

stay classy Jack
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-23001916/

first he and his friends beat up someone outside a club, now this

continuing the tradition of being a member of the England football team

Heh. He is doing his best to fit right in already.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by united

Bolton confirm Holden is out for six months after the brutal tackle by Jonny Evans. Harsh for them, Holden has been great this season and is a player it's hard to not like.

Holden has the right attitude as well - Just had a sincere phone call from Jonny Evans wishing me the best in my recovery, def wasn't intentional, just unfortunate part of the game

In this case, the ref got it right by sending Evans off. Evans and the rest of the United players got it right by not surrounding the ref, and the injured player and mocking him. Finally the fans got it right by cheering for Holden instead of booing and jeering him while he was taken off. Too bad the same couldn't be said about the Nani/Liverpool incident and others like it.

Hahahahahaha!!!! You must have been banking on no one actually watching this or something!! Hahahaha!!!

What about Patrice Evra and 3 others following the ref around until he gave out the red?? Ha!

Yeah...real honourable.

[SeoulFire]

Originally Posted by Locke

Hahahahahaha!!!! You must have been banking on no one actually watching this or something!! Hahahaha!!!

What about Patrice Evra and 3 others following the ref around until he gave out the red?? Ha!

Yeah...real honourable.

You seriously fail to see the difference in watching the videos?

http://soccertvlive.blogspot.com/201...jured-and.html

http://soccertvlive.blogspot.com/201...out-for-6.html

[Locke]

Originally Posted by SeoulFire

You seriously fail to see the difference in watching the videos?

http://soccertvlive.blogspot.com/201...jured-and.html

http://soccertvlive.blogspot.com/201...out-for-6.html

I see Johnny Evans shrugging his shoulders and waving his arms like it was no big deal and then him, Patrice Evra, Ryan Giggs and Nani (being close to refs is becoming almost a fetish for him) surrounding the referee trying to talk him out of giving Evans a red.

Clearly Evans thought it was no big deal based on his body language.

But you're right, I do see a significant difference. The Bolton players looked after their teammate rather than worrying about the referee and left him alone. Not one Bolton player near the ref.

Was that what you're alluding to? The Bolton players let the ref do his job? I dont see what that has to do with United.

Not to mention, Holden didnt run around half the field crying about it to make sure the whole stadium knew how grievously wounded he was.

[SeoulFire]

Some features are great - my CP experience just got a little less trollish.

[Pagal4321]

Wow, United fans trying to get some kind of sympathy point or what?! I'm so confused as to what you are alluding to, maybe that the United players didn't whine as much as they normally do?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Pagal4321

Wow, United fans trying to get some kind of sympathy point or what?! I'm so confused as to what you are alluding to, maybe that the United players didn't whine as much as they normally do?

I dont know what they're after. Extolling United's virtues of not surrounding the ref trying to con him out of a red card for a tackle that didnt cut someone, but actually broke the man's leg, and then showed a video of the United players doing exactly that.

"They didnt surround the ref!" Yes they did, your manc buddy just provided the video evidence.

And I love people that have to get the 'last word' in when they put someone on their ignore list, trust me, you're not the first and you wont be the last.

[SeoulFire]

Originally Posted by Pagal4321

Wow, United fans trying to get some kind of sympathy point or what?! I'm so confused as to what you are alluding to, maybe that the United players didn't whine as much as they normally do?

The actions of the team committing the foul were vastly different in scope - that is it. The biggest mistake was responding to somebody who only makes inflammatory comments and should stick with the mutual masturbatory thread that is LFC.

[Pagal4321]

Originally Posted by SeoulFire

The actions of the team committing the foul were vastly different in scope - that is it. The biggest mistake was responding to somebody who only makes inflammatory comments and should stick with the mutual masturbatory thread that is LFC.

Again, are you looking for some kind of pat on the back that they didnt' argue as much as the other team? I'm very confused as to what you are trying to accomplish here. If you are trying to fish for any type of sympathy towards United, it's not likely you will get it.

Should you want some United comrodary, please feel free to start a Man U thread so you can all bask in the glory of all that is Manchester United.

[SeoulFire]

Originally Posted by Pagal4321

Again, are you looking for some kind of pat on the back that they didnt' argue as much as the other team? I'm very confused as to what you are trying to accomplish here. If you are trying to fish for any type of sympathy towards United, it's not likely you will get it.

Should you want some United comrodary, please feel free to start a Man U thread so you can all bask in the glory of all that is Manchester United.

Well I can't quote anything as I have recently cleaned the garbage from my threads but I will address this as best as I can.

First off, I will never defend Nani - I have wanted him off the team since the disgraceful headbutt incident a few years ago. With that said he kind of made his own bed but the actions of the Liverpool players is indefensible - especially when it was a clear red card tackle. Combine that with the fact that his bone was exposed compounds the issue. Yet Liverpool continued to taunt him while madly gesticulating at the official (and Nani). The fact that Gerrard(!) has the audacity to tell him to get up with himself being one of the biggest floppers in the league is amazing.

United posted

Bolton confirm Holden is out for six months after the brutal tackle by Jonny Evans. Harsh for them, Holden has been great this season and is a player it's hard to not like.

It was a brutal tackle and there has been very little in rationalizing or whingeing about the call.

Holden has the right attitude as well - Just had a sincere phone call from Jonny Evans wishing me the best in my recovery, def wasn't intentional, just unfortunate part of the game

This implicitly condemns Nani as not having the right attitude - Nani publicly attacked Carragher after the incident despite the apology. As mentioned he is a disgrace (with decent skill) that I would rather not have on the team.

In this case, the ref got it right by sending Evans off. Evans and the rest of the United players got it right by not surrounding the ref, and the injured player and mocking him. Finally the fans got it right by cheering for Holden instead of booing and jeering him while he was taken off. Too bad the same couldn't be said about the Nani/Liverpool incident and others like it.

The only mistake here was not referencing the manner in which the official was approached. Evra was wearing the band so he had every right to be there. Evans was of course going to be there. Giggs should not have been talking but I am sure he gets a pass on some of these things (although it was a very controlled discussion) and Nani was an eavesdropper. Evra got the explanation and herded the others away and then the ref issued the red. No wild protests, body language etc or taunting of the injured player or anything directed at the ref.

There were no generalizations about relative class levels or stating that any team it was simply comparing two incidents. The first was a dog-puke gong show (by both teams) and the second was handled in a pretty much exemplary fashion (by both teams and the official) despite the importance of the moment. Sadly this is not the case for most red cards given during the season.

The response to this was incredibly (yet not unexpectedly) juvenile (hahahahahaha etc etc). Quit looking for something that isn't there.

[Pagal4321]

My response to that wasn't juvenile at all, unless I'm mistaken. I thought it was a good post, up until the last sentence. Why keep bringing up the Nani/Liverpool incident? Get over it, unless he's looking something more.

Sometimes you United fans are pathetic and I think that was an example of that.

[SeoulFire]

Originally Posted by Pagal4321

My response to that wasn't juvenile at all, unless I'm mistaken. I thought it was a good post, up until the last sentence. Why keep bringing up the Nani/Liverpool incident? Get over it, unless he's looking something more.

Sometimes you United fans are pathetic and I think that was an example of that.

That last sentence was not directed at you at all.

[Locke]

Balotelli on his behaviour.

"Introduce me to Ronaldo and I swear I'll behave to the end of my playing career," he told Le Iene. "I never met him, so you know when you see the idol of a lifetime it can change your way of thinking? There are many great players, but Ronaldo was the greatest and so one word from him is worth a thousand from the others."

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/st...nge-me?cc=5901

Okay....I like Ronaldo too, and he is a legend, but why does Balotelli need all of these other people to tell him to behave?

I think the dude is actually crazy....

[Addick]

As someone who understands that terraces are not intrinsically unsafe and at times has been priced out of attending a Premier League match, I fully support safe standing. Where do you lot stand?

Stand And Deliver

23 March 2011
Soccernet.com
Dale Johnson

The issue of standing areas at football grounds in England has been an emotive issue ever since the Hillsborough disaster of 1989, which led to all-seater stadia.

All four professional divisions in England were initially to remove terraces, a decision that was eventually revised with clubs in the third and fourth tiers no longer required to make changes due to the cost of updating grounds that were largely outdated and not designed for seating. Just the Premier League and the Championship require all-seater arenas.

A common misconception with the Taylor Report is that it advised the banning of standing areas. That is a fallacy. The report suggested a move to all-seater stadia but did not blame standing areas for the Hillsborough disaster - more so overcrowding, poor stadium design and errors in policing. But standing is perceived as the evil, hence "safe standing" is the term used when discussing its return.

Standing as it was in the 1980s could never return. You only have to look at the images of crowds during that period to see that terraces were dangerously overcrowded. Fans were packed in with little thought for safety or comfort. Not just football but society in general is very different today, with an obsession over health and safety. This one reason alone would prevent another Hillsborough.

Complete Article

Premier League To Reject 'Safe Standing'

23 March 2011
Soccernet.com
Soccernet Staff

The Premier League has confirmed it will oppose moves by the Football Supporters' Federation (FSF) to reintroduce standing areas at top-flight matches.

Standing-only areas were removed on the recommendation of the Taylor Report following the Hillsborough disaster in 1989, but the FSF are calling for the return of terraces in the top two divisions for English football.

However, Premier League chief spokesman Dan Johnson said that the organisation will not be backing to the proposals.

"Our view is that the benefits of all-seater stadia far outweigh the return of standing areas," Johnson said. "They have led to more women and more children attending the games and no matter how safe standing can be made, seating is always safer. We will not be encouraging the Government to change the law."

Complete Article

Campaign To Reinstate Standing To Go On Tour Of The Grounds
Fans To Get Chance To Try New-Style Seating Used In Germany

23 March 2011
Guardian
David Conn

The Football Supporters' Federation plans to tour the country with an example of the "rail seating" widely used in German grounds in a bid to gain support for its campaign to reintroduce standing at top-level English matches.

The Guardian revealed that the sports minister, Hugh Robertson, has agreed to consider reintroducing standing areas, which have been banned in the top two divisions since 1994, if the football authorities and police form a consensus in support. The FSF is determined to demonstrate the difference between modern standing accommodation and the old-style English football terraces in grounds at the time of the Hillsborough disaster.

John Darch, an FSF member, is working with the UK manufacturer Ferco Seating Systems, a partner to Germany company Eheim-Möbel, which has built rail seating in Hoffenheim's new stadium and the refurbished Stuttgart stadium.

"We have to help people understand we are not talking about bringing back old-style terraces," Darch said. "I will be inviting supporters at all clubs around the country to contact me asking me to visit with the mock-up. Then fans themselves, the chairmen and chief executives of clubs, safety officers and politicians can see we are talking about modern supporter accommodation, which fans and clubs enjoy, and which is passed as safe by the Bundesliga."

Complete Article

[Locke]

This could jeopardize his Iron Man streak!!

Owen Hargreaves has suffered yet another setback in his bid to regain his fitness after sustaining a shoulder injury in training.

Hargreaves has played less than ten minutes' football for Manchester United since September 2008 having had surgery on his knee problems on two occasions before tearing his hamstring on his brief comeback against Wolves in November.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/st...etback?cc=5901

You do have to feel bad for the guy, hes been injured for pretty much 3 consecutive years.

[Nuje]

Originally Posted by Locke

This could jeopardize his Iron Man streak!!

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/st...etback?cc=5901

You do have to feel bad for the guy, hes been injured for pretty much 3 consecutive years.

For sure, he's a good guy too. Very unfortunate that he hasn't been able to play at all.

[SeoulFire]

More Mario fun!
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/270320...ts-window.html