White Supremist March on Saturday

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

The anti seal hunt campaign was right across from my work in 17th Ave. I watched them from my window.
About 20 people; 90% teenage girls.

Go on...

[jeffh]

So if this is so wrong, why isn't Native Pride or Gay Pride parades? These groups have been granted equal rights already, and then some(in some cases). I just don't get the double standard. Do you? I don't like discrimination either way you look at it, and I don't think I need to march for caucasion rights as much as a native person should be allowed a march for native rights. Freedom of speech, freedom of organization, freedom?

[TorqueDog]

Why would I even give credibility to their cause by wasting my time going and protesting these morons? They do what they do because we give them an audience, they know their message is reaching someone, even if that person disagrees with it.

It also angers me how it was written that we have this 'huge' subculture of white power jackoffs, and yet there were what, sixteen of these twits?

[Red Ice Player]

Originally Posted by jeffh

So if this is so wrong, why isn't Native Pride or Gay Pride parades? These groups have been granted equal rights already, and then some(in some cases). I just don't get the double standard. Do you? I don't like discrimination either way you look at it, and I don't think I need to march for caucasion rights as much as a native person should be allowed a march for native rights. Freedom of speech, freedom of organization, freedom?

You're kidding right? Gay Pride and Native Pride celebrates pride in what you are. White Power celebrates the hatred for all those that aren't like you. Do you really think they're celebrating their skin colour? Suuuuure they are.....

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by jeffh

So if this is so wrong, why isn't Native Pride or Gay Pride parades? These groups have been granted equal rights already, and then some(in some cases). I just don't get the double standard. Do you? I don't like discrimination either way you look at it, and I don't think I need to march for caucasion rights as much as a native person should be allowed a march for native rights. Freedom of speech, freedom of organization, freedom?

They had their freedom. They have their organization (pathetic as that is). They had their free speech and moronic little march. Nobody stopped them.

Were you there?

[jeffh]

eh, I'm a suburban white guy from the great white north, I'll celebrate by singing along to my anthem. Obvious there's a hidden agenda with their cute little white march, but isn't it wrong to deny their right? I'm sure many local cops would love to work this march and bust some skulls of some over-active skin-heads. I wonder if someone could post the little leaflet they were handing out at one of the C-train stations. Ya know, lets get it in writing.

[jeffh]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

They had their freedom. They have their organization (pathetic as that is). They had their free speech and moronic little march. Nobody stopped them.

Were you there?

No, were you? As pathetic as it is. I thought the city tried to stop them, by not granting some sort of permit.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by jeffh

eh, I'm a suburban white guy from the great white north, I'll celebrate by singing along to my anthem. Obvious there's a hidden agenda with their cute little white march, but isn't it wrong to deny their right? I'm sure many local cops would love to work this march and bust some skulls of some over-active skin-heads. I wonder if someone could post the little leaflet they were handing out at one of the C-train stations. Ya know, lets get it in writing.

I don't think you are hiding any agenda when you have swastika tattooed onto your thick skull and you walk around saying "White Power".

It would be wrong to deny them the right to prove how effing stupid they are with their march. Nobody did that though. They marched.

[Red Ice Player]

Originally Posted by jeffh

eh, I'm a suburban white guy from the great white north, I'll celebrate by singing along to my anthem. Obvious there's a hidden agenda with their cute little white march, but isn't it wrong to deny their right? I'm sure many local cops would love to work this march and bust some skulls of some over-active skin-heads. I wonder if someone could post the little leaflet they were handing out at one of the C-train stations. Ya know, lets get it in writing.

There is nothing hidden about their agenda. And no one denied their rights. The police have the right and the responsibility to keep the peace, which in this case was preventing these idiots from getting curb stomped. I really don't see what you're complaining about unless you're just trolling, if so , good job!

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by jeffh

So if this is so wrong, why isn't Native Pride or Gay Pride parades? These groups have been granted equal rights already, and then some(in some cases). I just don't get the double standard. Do you? I don't like discrimination either way you look at it, and I don't think I need to march for caucasion rights as much as a native person should be allowed a march for native rights. Freedom of speech, freedom of organization, freedom?

What rights are caucasian people not getting? or what rights are they marching for? To be the only race in Canada? sounds reasonable!

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by jeffh

So if this is so wrong, why isn't Native Pride or Gay Pride parades? These groups have been granted equal rights already, and then some(in some cases). I just don't get the double standard. Do you? I don't like discrimination either way you look at it, and I don't think I need to march for caucasion rights as much as a native person should be allowed a march for native rights. Freedom of speech, freedom of organization, freedom?

Yeah, those Caucasians really got the historically rough ride that Aboriginals and GLBT communities had.

Can't be very proud of themselves if they don't want to show their faces.

[Devils'Advocate]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

Why would I even give credibility to their cause by wasting my time going and protesting these morons? They do what they do because we give them an audience, they know their message is reaching someone, even if that person disagrees with it.

Somehow I don't buy the whole "ignore them and they will go away" thing.

I think if they march and there is no opposition, then those predisposed to hating minorities may think that that is acceptable.

Along the lines of the Gay Pride Parade... it was meant to say "We are proud of who we are, we're not afraid of what we are, and it's okay for you to be proud too". It was meant for people of the same ilk who have traditionally been looked down upon to feel a sense of community and solidarity.

Those that may feel ashamed of their xenophobic, racist attitudes could feel less ashamed if there was a huge showing of people of the same attitudes. I think that ignoring a problem only serves to make the problem bigger sometime later down the road...

[Suzles]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

The anti seal hunt campaign was right across from my work in 17th Ave. I watched them from my window.
About 20 people; 90% teenage girls.

Seems like a weak day for protesting

Sadly, I couldn't go today as my dog is sick. In previous years it has been pretty evenly split between men and women in attendance (between 50 - 75 of us) and of course, some younger people. I met a lovely lady of 86 years of age protesting with me last time.

[RedJester]

One can be proud of their heritage without being a racist dick about it, (and preferably, not racist at all.)

Neo-Nazis just like to hide behind the rules, just as religious extremists and cultists do. Sadly, they weren't the first, and they won't be the last.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

Somehow I don't buy the whole "ignore them and they will go away" thing.

I think if they march and there is no opposition, then those predisposed to hating minorities may think that that is acceptable.

Well then it's a case of "damned if you do, damned if you don't". What, do you really think people protesting their march will change their minds?

The people involved in these demonstrations think their behavior is acceptable whether you protest your little head off or ignore them entirely. However, if no one pays any attention to their moron-parade, they might be less inclined to continue doing it. No audience and no reaction = no point. It works with kids, and we all know these people are probably on the same mental level.

I don't buy the premise that not actively attending and protesting a white pride parade would push those predisposed to disliking minorities to act upon it in more severe ways nor do I think it would strengthen their beliefs that it's acceptable. Society looks down upon such behavior and you'd have to have been living under a rock or raised in a completely different culture to think otherwise.

I'm not caucasian, for the record. At least, by their definition I wouldn't qualify. I'm half brown, half white... to put it bluntly, I'm beige.


Aside: I was called a racial slur in elementary school by a bully, one not normally reserved for brown people, but a slur I didn't happen to like either way. My being a quiet kid, he probably didn't think anything would come of it... except I then tried to use his nose to break my fist, repeatedly. He didn't do it again.

[CampbellsTransgressions]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Go on...

From my experiences these aren't the teenage girls your thinking of.

[Reggie Dunlop]

The problems with these things is that they inevitably turn into a rumble between two street cultures. The skinheads vs. anarchists. Mostly young male aggression.

More ordinary folks showing up with nonsensical signs and slogans (a la The March for Sanity) and basically yukking it up would probably deflate these clown's resolve. Laugh at them.

Take away their attempt to instill fear, and these guys are exposed as the marginalized rejects of society that they are.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by jeffh

So if this is so wrong, why isn't Native Pride or Gay Pride parades? These groups have been granted equal rights already, and then some(in some cases). I just don't get the double standard. Do you? I don't like discrimination either way you look at it, and I don't think I need to march for caucasion rights as much as a native person should be allowed a march for native rights. Freedom of speech, freedom of organization, freedom?

Because there aren't roaming packs of gay thugs going around beating the crap out of straight guys.

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by jeffh

So if this is so wrong, why isn't Native Pride or Gay Pride parades? These groups have been granted equal rights already, and then some(in some cases). I just don't get the double standard. Do you? I don't like discrimination either way you look at it, and I don't think I need to march for caucasion rights as much as a native person should be allowed a march for native rights. Freedom of speech, freedom of organization, freedom?

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