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Old 03-17-2011, 02:19 PM   #421
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Glendale is right in the middle pretty much. It's like 10 minutes from Downtown
Jobing.com arena is closer to a 30 minute drive from downtown Phoenix and longer if there is any sort of traffic. Not a chance you could make that drive in 10 mins... ever.
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Old 03-17-2011, 02:25 PM   #422
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So what are the chances of the team moving/staying?
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Old 03-17-2011, 02:26 PM   #423
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So what are the chances of the team moving/staying?
Flip a coin.
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Jobing.com arena is closer to a 30 minute drive from downtown Phoenix and longer if there is any sort of traffic. Not a chance you could make that drive in 10 mins... ever.
Agreed. To re-hash, the biggest mistake the franchise made after arrival was killing the Los Arcos arena project in Scottsdale.

It takes approximately 1 hour on the freeway in very light traffic to arrive at Jobing.com from our place in North Scottsdale.
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Old 03-17-2011, 02:36 PM   #425
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I think the comment from the Mayor gives everyone a time frame. She said two weeks and they may be looking for a minor league team. The suggestions that people have made about announcements being made at the end of the season for the Coyotes seem right to me.
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So what are the chances of the team moving/staying?
To use a classic poker line, it's 50/50 - either they'll move or they won't.
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Old 03-17-2011, 03:08 PM   #428
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They are done in Phoenix. I do think they will end up in the Peg but even if they don't they will still not be in Phoenix next year. Hockey in the desert was a stupid idea anyhow.
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Old 03-17-2011, 03:19 PM   #429
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Some have speculated that Canadians eager to see the team return have donated to Goldwater. Olsen said the institute will not release records of donors without their consent due to privacy law. But she said the institute searched its donation database "high and low" and found one $100 gift from a Canadian.

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Agreed. To re-hash, the biggest mistake the franchise made after arrival was killing the Los Arcos arena project in Scottsdale.

It takes approximately 1 hour on the freeway in very light traffic to arrive at Jobing.com from our place in North Scottsdale.
The people of Scottsdale killed the Los Arcos deal.

and I live at Scottsdale Rd and 101 - Takes me 25-30 minutes to get to Jobing.com arena. I work 5 minutes south of the Job at I-10 and 101 and do the drive daily..

Saying 1 hour, is pure bull... It really doesn't matter where the team is.. we'd still be in the same situation now with the prior Moyes/Gretzky ownership. 13,000+ guaranteed everynight before this crap happened.
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Old 03-17-2011, 03:24 PM   #432
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Meanwhile Atlanta says they have two potential buyers who would keep the team in Atlanta.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=358431
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For whatever it's worth, I'm hearing that the Coyotes bonds will sell middle of next week and the deal will close shortly after.
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For whatever it's worth, I'm hearing that the Coyotes bonds will sell middle of next week and the deal will close shortly after.
Which will be followed by Goldwater filing the lawsuit and tying it up in court forever. Does the NHL really want to go through that nightmare to save a team that is a money pit?
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For whatever it's worth, I'm hearing that the Coyotes bonds will sell middle of next week and the deal will close shortly after.
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The people of Scottsdale killed the Los Arcos deal.

and I live at Scottsdale Rd and 101 - Takes me 25-30 minutes to get to Jobing.com arena. I work 5 minutes south of the Job at I-10 and 101 and do the drive daily..

Saying 1 hour, is pure bull... It really doesn't matter where the team is.. we'd still be in the same situation now with the prior Moyes/Gretzky ownership. 13,000+ guaranteed everynight before this crap happened.
Ah, so you live in Scottsdale? So you have no skin in this then.

I can see why you as a fan dont care how they get it done. (public or private money)
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Which will be followed by Goldwater filing the lawsuit and tying it up in court forever. Does the NHL really want to go through that nightmare to save a team that is a money pit?
I don't think anyone cares about the lawsuit and no, the money will not be tied up.
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Ah, so you live in Scottsdale. So you have no skin in this then.

I can see why you as a fan dont care how they get it done. (public or private money)
I lived and work in the west valley and have probably spent over 6-7000 in Glendale this year alone.. I have no skin?

It's narrow minded to believe that by the team leaving helps Glendale.. are you nuts???? It's a no win for Glendale but the loss is far less if the team stays.
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I don't think anyone cares about the lawsuit and no, the money will not be tied up.
Actually it will. They have a very solid case and I don't see how they can lose. You wishing there won't be a big legal battle is not going to change that.
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Actually it will. They have a very solid case and I don't see how they can lose. You wishing there won't be a big legal battle is not going to change that.
Ok... but the bond money will still be released and the deal will close. Which is what I'm trying to say.

Goldwater had a revenue of $2.3 million last year.. They're going against a monster with an already VERY weak argument. This is all face time for them
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