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Old 03-17-2011, 12:46 PM   #741
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Don't know if this was posted before. Here is the under construction Tokyo Sky Tree tower (634m/2084') during the earthquake (the shaking starts around the 3 minute mark):

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Old 03-17-2011, 12:54 PM   #742
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Why not load it up into a rocket of some type and launch that sucker right at the sun?
A few reasons.

Venus is in the way, would be a real shame if we blew it up in an attempt to satisfy our fancy for shooting things at the sun.

Also we haven't perfected a material that has a high enough temperature resistance to let the stuff get close enough to the sun without melting off in space long before it gets to it's intended destination.

We need better nuclear technology to provide enough power for the rocket to get to the sun.
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Old 03-17-2011, 01:00 PM   #743
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Not to mention if a rocket explodes on the way into orbit you've just spread radioactive material over thousands of km.
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Old 03-17-2011, 01:01 PM   #744
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That's extremely expensive.
Expense aside, it's also extremely dangerous. Say something goes wrong with that rocket and it exploded before leaving our atmosphere? The result would definatley be the worst nuclear disaster this world has ever seen, and depending on how much radioactive material was actually put onto the rocket, maybe the worst disaster, period, that this world has ever seen.
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Old 03-17-2011, 01:04 PM   #745
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We need better nuclear technology to provide enough power for the rocket to get to the sun.
So we need nuclear power to shoot our nuclear waste into the sun? For some reason that reminded me of an episode of It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia...

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Dennis: I don’t know. We disposed of the trash in the dumpster last night? What are you doing with it?
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Mac: We have a furnace?
Charlie: Absolutely. Where do you think the heat comes from?
Dennis: You burn the trash in the furnace?
Charlie: This bar runs on trash, dude. This bar is totally green that way.
Dennis: How is burning trash green?
Charlie: Ah, because I’m recycling the trash into heat for the bar, and lot’s of smoke for the bar, giving it that smoky smell that we all like.
Mac: The bar smells like trash.
Dennis: That’s exactly the opposite of green, Charlie.
Charlie: Oh, I’m sorry. Well, I can put the trash into a landfill where it’s gonna stay for millions of years, or I can burn it up and get a nice smoky smell in here and let that smoke go into the sky where it turns into stars.
Mac: That doesn’t sound right, but I don’t know enough about stars to dispute it.
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Old 03-17-2011, 01:05 PM   #746
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Earthquake? Pfft. Chuck Norris wanted to go surfing.
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Old 03-17-2011, 01:41 PM   #747
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So we need nuclear power to shoot our nuclear waste into the sun? For some reason that reminded me of an episode of It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia...
Haha, I just watched that one last night!
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Old 03-17-2011, 01:52 PM   #748
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Question for people in the know...


If you know people in Japan and wanted to send them something directly, is it possible to do that through some type of charity or agency? My brother-in-law's wife is from Japan, and while her family is safe, where they live, they are having trouble getting everyday items and she wanted to send them some stuff to hold them up. They tried the standard delivery companies, but no one seems to be going there right now.

I know their situation is petty compared to the humanitarian situation in some places, and we do intend on giving more to where the real hard-up people are, but as you can understand, she wants to do something nice for were family there.
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Old 03-17-2011, 02:00 PM   #749
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On a serious note; I looked up volunteering for the Red Cross after the earthquake happened. The minimum requirements were along the lines of "2 years over seas experience." I don't have that, but would be extremely interested in doing so. Does anybody know who I can contact with regards to over seas volunteering with no experience?
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Old 03-17-2011, 02:07 PM   #750
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Question for people in the know...


If you know people in Japan and wanted to send them something directly, is it possible to do that through some type of charity or agency? My brother-in-law's wife is from Japan, and while her family is safe, where they live, they are having trouble getting everyday items and she wanted to send them some stuff to hold them up. They tried the standard delivery companies, but no one seems to be going there right now.

I know their situation is petty compared to the humanitarian situation in some places, and we do intend on giving more to where the real hard-up people are, but as you can understand, she wants to do something nice for were family there.
Maybe have her call someplace else in Japan and see if they can deliver to the area her family is in? Or invent a transporter room? Apart from using a courier, there aren't many options.
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Old 03-17-2011, 02:08 PM   #751
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Why not load it up into a rocket of some type and launch that sucker right at the sun?
There was a Superman movie about that senario. It almost didn't turn out well for Superman
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Old 03-17-2011, 02:10 PM   #752
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Also mentioned, the Canadian Medical Team that went over to Japan came home already because of the uncertainty of the Nuclear Issue over there and their inability to deal with it if something happens.
The were a small NGO team of volunteers and not sent by the CDN government. I'm not surprised they didn't know what to do.
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A few reasons.

Venus is in the way, would be a real shame if we blew it up in an attempt to satisfy our fancy for shooting things at the sun.

Also we haven't perfected a material that has a high enough temperature resistance to let the stuff get close enough to the sun without melting off in space long before it gets to it's intended destination.

We need better nuclear technology to provide enough power for the rocket to get to the sun.
I think if we looked it up, we might find that all of the nuclear waste ever produced in the history of the world would measure a foot deep and fit inside a few acres.

You're not talking a lot of mass.

Nobody wants it on their acres though.

As far as markets go, eventually folks will realize the overwhelming portion of Japanese infrastructure and its economy is largely unaffected. It's a sorrowful event but a nation of 130 million and a world of 7 billion will move on pretty quickly.

And China isn't going to stop its crash construction of nuclear reactors either.

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I think if we looked it up, we might find that all of the nuclear waste ever produced in the history of the world would measure a foot deep and fit inside a few acres.

You're not talking a lot of mass.

Nobody wants it on their acres though.

As far as markets go, eventually folks will realize the overwhelming portion of Japanese infrastructure and its economy is largely unaffected. It's a sorrowful event but a nation of 130 million and a world of 7 billion will move on pretty quickly.

And China isn't going to stop its crash construction of nuclear reactors either.

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A few reasons.

Venus is in the way, would be a real shame if we blew it up in an attempt to satisfy our fancy for shooting things at the sun.

Also we haven't perfected a material that has a high enough temperature resistance to let the stuff get close enough to the sun without melting off in space long before it gets to it's intended destination.

We need better nuclear technology to provide enough power for the rocket to get to the sun.
Seriously? f%%% Venus, what have they ever done for us.
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I think you're right Cow. I seem to recall it being one football field stacked 1m high, so pretty much the same thing.

And really, I'll take highly concentrated and dangerous waste buried deep in the earth over weaker much less dangerous waste continuously pumped into the air I breath.
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Old 03-17-2011, 02:45 PM   #757
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Seriously? f%%% Venus, what have they ever done for us.
Or what about shooting it out to middle of no where....in the hopes it doesn't turn around and come back in a few thousand years.
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On waste amounts...it depends on what waste you are talking about. Low level waste there is a tremendous amount of volume but it is also easily dealt with and not much of a concern. There is much less high level waste but it is still a large amount. At the Hanford site the K Basin area alone has 53 million gallons of a thick high level sludge that needs to be handled remotely (this is thanks to the US government. When they shut down the plutonium producing reactors they took the fuel and simply tossed them into K Basin and ignored them even though the K Basin was not designed for that purpose). When you add in Rocky Flats and Savannah River there is a lot of high level waste associated with those remediations.

The bright side is that newly generated waste is not big at all, especially in areas that reprocess fuels.
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Old 03-17-2011, 03:16 PM   #759
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On a serious note; I looked up volunteering for the Red Cross after the earthquake happened. The minimum requirements were along the lines of "2 years over seas experience." I don't have that, but would be extremely interested in doing so. Does anybody know who I can contact with regards to over seas volunteering with no experience?
It's extremely difficult to join a team after a disaster has occurred, there are literally thousands of newby's in this country that try this every time something goes wrong somewhere in the world. If you feel strongly about helping out on a future disaster (it will happen and happen soon) contact the red cross,local fire department or even the police and offer your services on a local level and volunteer your time to their projects..they are always looking and you will get somewhat the proper training that they require.

Very nice of you to offer though.
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