This is an interesting video that a friend sent me. It is about this starchild skull listed below. Either it is fiction or non-fiction, but I found it interesting. I believe E.T.'s exist but due to so much fraud out there you always have to question whats real. Non the less this was neat.
From Wiki:
Lloyd Pye (1946-) is an Americanauthor. Pye is known for advocating an ancient astronaut hypothesis on the origin of human life by deliberate intervention by extraterrestrial life, and for his promotion of the Starchild skull, which Pye claims is a relic skull of a human-alien hybrid. He is the author of four books, including Everything You Know Is Wrong - Book One: Human Origins and The Starchild Skull: Genetic Enigma or Human-Alien Hybrid?. He also gives lectures and has made television appearances in support of his ideas on The Learning Channel, National Geographic Channel, Extra, Animal Planet, and Richard & Judy in the United Kingdom. Pye's ideas have been criticized for contradicting the evolutionary model of human origins currently accepted by the scientific community.
DNA testing in 1999 at BOLD, a forensic DNA lab in Vancouver, British Columbia found standard X and Y chromosomes in two samples taken from the skull, "conclusive evidence that the child was not only human (and male), but both of his parents must have been human as well, for each must have contributed one of the human sex chromosomes".[7] Further DNA testing at Trace Genetics, which specializes in extracting DNA from ancient samples, in 2003 recovered mitochondrial DNA from both skulls. The child belongs to haplogroup C. Since mitochondrial DNA is inherited exclusively from the mother, it makes it possible to trace the offspring's maternal lineage. The DNA test therefore confirmed that the child's mother was a Haplogroup C human female. The adult female belongs to haplogroup A. Both haplotypes are characteristic Native American haplogroups, but the different haplogroup for each skull indicates that the adult female was not the child's mother. Trace Genetics obtained nuclear DNA, which contains chromosomes from both the father and the mother, from the adult female, but was not able to recover useful lengths of nuclear DNA or Y-chromosomal DNA of the father from the Starchild skull, despite conducting six consecutive tests. The founders of Trace Genetics stated that "[t]he inability to analyze nuclear DNA indicates that such DNA is either not present or present in sufficiently low copy number to prevent PCR analysis using methods available at the present time." [
Yes, I was thinking it was a deformed skull while I was watching the video. One can dream!
"Yeah_Baby - Is your friend's favorite movie Zeitgeist too?"
LOL - yes, but I enjoy the conversations he makes. He is free to believe what he wants. I find the monetary system explanation in those stories to be interesting.
I find the whole "ancient astronaut" theories insulting/racist. Why couldn't different cultures develop their own technology to build pyramids etc, without the help of aliens?
The term 'ancient astronauts' designates the speculative notion that aliens are responsible for the most ancient civilizations on earth. The most notorious proponent of this idea is Erich von Däniken, author of several popular books on the subject. His Chariots of the Gods? Unsolved Mysteries of the Past, for example, is a sweeping attack on the memories and abilities of ancient peoples. Von Däniken claims that the myths, arts, social organizations, etc., of ancient cultures were introduced by astronauts from another world. He questions not just the capacity for memory, but the capacity for culture and civilization itself, in ancient peoples. Prehistoric humans did not develop their own arts and technologies, but rather were taught art and science by visitors from outer space.
Where is the proof for von Däniken's claims? Some of it was fraudulent.
However, most of von Däniken's evidence is in the form of specious and fallacious arguments.
There have been many critics of von Däniken's notions, but Ronald Story stands out as the most thorough. Most critics of von Däniken's theory point out that prehistoric peoples were not the helpless, incompetent, forgetful savages he makes them out to be
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I find the whole "ancient astronaut" theories insulting/racist. Why couldn't different cultures develop their own technology to build pyramids etc, without the help of aliens?
We don't like the fact that colored people were building great monuments while our ancestors were squatting in mud huts somewhere in Europe.
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I find the whole "ancient astronaut" theories insulting/racist. Why couldn't different cultures develop their own technology to build pyramids etc, without the help of aliens?
But this link does not talk about the skull. This conversation here is about the skull! Lawyers, always trying to change the topic to suit their needs...
But this link does not talk about the skull. This conversation here is about the skull! Lawyers, always trying to change the topic to suit their needs...
by Steven Novella, MD (Editor) The New England Journal of Skepticism Vol. 3 Issue 1 (Winter 2000)
What about their confident prediction that DNA testing will prove the child was alien? Well, a DNA sample was taken from the skull, and was subjected to DNA probes designed to detect sequences of DNA which are unique to humans (performed by Dr. David Sweet, Director of the Bureau of Legal Dentistry at the University of British Columbia). The Starchild skull DNA was found to contain both an X and a Y chromosome. This is conclusive evidence that the child was not only human (and male), but both of his parents must have been human as well, for each must have contributed one of the human sex chromosomes.
We will likely never know the whole story of the Starchild, but what is clear is that aliens need not be invoked. The child very likely suffered from untreated hydrocephalus, a mundane and simple explanation for the anomalies seen in the skull. DNA testing confirms, unsurprisingly, the child’s human ancestry. Still, the true-believers are likely to cling tenaciously to their preferred hypotheses, and will continue to spin tales of an alien-human breeding program. Science progresses forward, while pseudoscience remains fixed in predetermined desired beliefs.
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by Steven Novella, MD (Editor) The New England Journal of Skepticism Vol. 3 Issue 1 (Winter 2000)
What about their confident prediction that DNA testing will prove the child was alien? Well, a DNA sample was taken from the skull, and was subjected to DNA probes designed to detect sequences of DNA which are unique to humans (performed by Dr. David Sweet, Director of the Bureau of Legal Dentistry at the University of British Columbia). The Starchild skull DNA was found to contain both an X and a Y chromosome. This is conclusive evidence that the child was not only human (and male), but both of his parents must have been human as well, for each must have contributed one of the human sex chromosomes.
We will likely never know the whole story of the Starchild, but what is clear is that aliens need not be invoked. The child very likely suffered from untreated hydrocephalus, a mundane and simple explanation for the anomalies seen in the skull. DNA testing confirms, unsurprisingly, the child’s human ancestry. Still, the true-believers are likely to cling tenaciously to their preferred hypotheses, and will continue to spin tales of an alien-human breeding program. Science progresses forward, while pseudoscience remains fixed in predetermined desired beliefs.
This info is above from Burn This City. Sometimes you take all the fun out of everything troutman... And that makes me cry.
Starchild - fact or fraud?
