Don't Bully Fat Kids

[DementedReality]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Did you see how hard the skinny kid punched that fat kid?

That skinny twerp got everything he deserved. If he had been permanently injured because of what the fat kid did he would still deserve it - the only shame would be the law would probably come down on the fat kid, but it still doesn't make it wrong IMO. The fat kid would have gone overboard had he kicked the skinny kid in the face while he was down, but one body slam is a fair response.

yup he earned some retribution ... that doesnt change how i feel about what the parents must think.

[DementedReality]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Last I checked he didnt pay for it with his life.

fortunatly, you cant tell me there isnt a high probability of permanent or fatal damage from a body slam like that on concrete.

a punch to the face and gut is nothing other then a piss off.

look, i dont disagree that the bigger kid should fight back and the little ##### didnt deserve some fist pie.

simply saying, as a parent, even if my kid deserved it, watching him being slammed into concrete like that would hurt, just as much as watching little JR be a bully would also hurt.

[8sPOT]

When I was in the 9th grade my little brother (3rd grade) was jumped by 3 bully's from the 5th grade. My bro was scared to go to school the next day, my parents told the school what had happened and we thought they would at least attempt to punish the bully's.

So a week later, I see the three of these kids mocking my brother for telling on them. I walked up to them and said 'so 3 on 1 is how you guys fight eh?' I then proceeded to beat the livin' piss out of them. Cars, buses, people all around I didn't give a sH&% I beat them up until I thought they felt what my brother felt, pain and humiliation.

Those particular cowards never bothered him again. I guess what I'm getting at is sometimes the only way to learn is to feel the lesson. Scolding a kid is one thing, a smack in the head is another.

Our society is going down a dangerous road where we can no longer discipline our kids, and they grow up thinking there are no real consequences for their actions.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by DementedReality

fortunatly, you cant tell me there isnt a high probability of permanent or fatal damage from a body slam like that on concrete.

a punch to the face and gut is nothing other then a piss off.

look, i dont disagree that the bigger kid should fight back and the little ##### didnt deserve some fist pie.

simply saying, as a parent, even if my kid deserved it, watching him being slammed into concrete like that would hurt, just as much as watching little JR be a bully would also hurt.

Geez the way you talk every kid falling off a bike is a near fatal incident.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by 8sPOT

When I was in the 9th grade my little brother (3rd grade) was jumped by 3 bully's from the 5th grade. My bro was scared to go to school the next day, my parents told the school what had happened and we thought they would at least attempt to punish the bully's.

So a week later, I see the three of these kids mocking my brother for telling on them. I walked up to them and said 'so 3 on 1 is how you guys fight eh?' I then proceeded to beat the livin' piss out of them. Cars, buses, people all around I didn't give a sH&% I beat them up until I thought they felt what my brother felt, pain and humiliation.

Those particular cowards never bothered him again. I guess what I'm getting at is sometimes the only way to learn is to feel the lesson. Scolding a kid is one thing, a smack in the head is another.

Our society is going down a dangerous road where we can no longer discipline our kids, and they grow up thinking there are no real consequences for their actions.

Yeah, I had something similar when I was growing up where these kids would follow my older sister (by 1 year) home after school and throw rocks at her. So I raced home one day and got there ahead of them and when my sister walked through the door, I came out walked down and grabbed the biggest kid by the collar and started feeding him, when another kid stepped up I told him to hang on and I would get to him in a second, but he didn't want to go.

After I was done, which was about 30 seconds of punching I told them that if they kept picking on my sister things were going to get a lot worse. One of them told me they would get me, and I told him that he isn't always going to have his friends around, and I was willing to take a punch to give 10.

After that they were very quiet.

Bully's for the most part are pants sh$tting cowards. If they get the jump they feel pretty good about themselves, but if they don't they're more likely to cry and whine then anything else.

I usually didn't have to many problems because I usually made sure that I got into a fight on the first day of school each year, people knew that I was willing to go basically at the drop of a hat.

Plus I could take a punch and laugh it off which can be pretty intimidating.

[TheyCallMeBruce]

I was bullied as a kid because I was skinny and smaller than most in my school. Most of the bullying was usually verbal, but occasionally some guys would get physical. Normally I'd just fend off their shots and run away. However, once I was cornered by 2 guys and didn't have anywhere to run, so I fought. I took a slap to the face first, and then as another slap was coming my way, I ducked it and landed 2 quick hard jabs to the chin and a haymaker to the side of the jaw. First guy was done, and the second guy was a little cautious as he approached me. I ran.

I got in trouble for this the next day cause apparently I hurt the kid pretty badly (dislocated jaw), and also the fact that I was enrolled in a martial arts school. I also got a beating from my dad because of this lol.

And the kid who got hurt? Well, he got transferred out cause apparently I was the aggressor and bully, and his dad didn't want him to attend a school while I'm there.

Good times.

[BigBrodieFan]

Look, my kid just turned 14 and he's about 6'4 and 205 pounds, not skinny but not fat. He's just a big kid. He's never been picked on or messed with.

I always tell my 'big kid' that if someone is being a jerk to you, consider the source because I know for a fact that he WOULD hurt a smaller kid with his football/basketball training. Looks like that big kid has been around the block a time or two as well. He could have killed the scrawny little puke with that maneuver.

If that were my kid getting picked on I would be heartbroken, but if my kid dropped/hit/slammed a much smaller kid for any reason, I'd be equally upset. No one ever said 'Don't hurt him, he's so much bigger than you.'

Maybe the little twerp deserved it, but more than likely the big kid will be the one who gets in trouble. I'm not saying it's right, just saying that sometimes, things just aren't fair. Violence never solves anything.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by fotze

I can see DR's point. Contrary to popular belief (including my own at one point), a parent does not have 100% control of how a kid will behave, what he will become. I know that belief makes things a lot easier to sort out, but it simply isn't true and surely people must really believe the world is not that simple.

It is most likely the parents could have been better. So it is a decent assumption. There is always the possibility that the parents did everything right and all the other potential influencing factors affected the kid and reversed the parenting. What if the skinny kids uncle raped him 3 weeks ago and the kid has all of a sudden acted out.

That said I wish he started face punching the little fataer after he chucked him.

I get that Fotze, but thats not really up to the kid thats getting bullied, nor should he care, thats up to the teachers to figure out why he's lashing out.

The only thing that kids should concern themselves with is not being targets for that kind of rage.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

Violence never solves anything.

At the end of the day measured violence solves everything

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by DementedReality

yup he earned some retribution ... that doesnt change how i feel about what the parents must think.

So the fat kid is getting bullied by a group of kids and the skinny loser in particular, and you're worried about the bully's parents? WTF.

[Kybosh]

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

Look, my kid just turned 14 and he's about 6'4 and 205 pounds, not skinny but not fat. He's just a big kid. He's never been picked on or messed with.
......

Holy mutant Batman! Does he have a full beard and wield a battle axe?

[BigBrodieFan]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

At the end of the day measured violence solves everything

At any time of day, beginning, middle or end- the only thing violence measures is levels of ignorance and arrogance.

[SeoulFire]

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

At any time of day, beginning, middle or end- the only thing violence measures is levels of ignorance and arrogance.

Yeah I am sure if the Punisher walked away a stern warning or *gasp* school suspension to the little prick in the video would have prevented all future conflict.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

At any time of day, beginning, middle or end- the only thing violence measures is levels of ignorance and arrogance.

Michael Ironside disagrees.


Dizzy: My mother always told me that violence doesn't solve anything.
Jean Rasczak: Really? I wonder what the city founders of Hiroshima would have to say about that.
[to Carmen]
Jean Rasczak: You.
Carmen: They wouldn't say anything. Hiroshima was destroyed.
Jean Rasczak: Correct. Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst.

[BigBrodieFan]

Originally Posted by SeoulFire

Yeah I am sure if the Punisher walked away a stern warning or *gasp* school suspension to the little prick in the video would have prevented all future conflict.

Maybe. Maybe not. But, had the little brat's head split open,the 'Punisher' could have really, really hurt the kid. I am saying I guarantee that if that kid's head split open, or if he got some kind of concussion, or broke his back, (or worse)- the big boy would have been in a world of crap. Fair or not.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

Maybe. Maybe not. But, had the little brat's head split open,the 'Punisher' could have really, really hurt the kid. I am saying I guarantee that if that kid's head split open, or if he got some kind of concussion, or broke his back, (or worse)- the big boy would have been in a world of crap. Fair or not.

So when somebody punches you in the face twice then starts laying the beats into your stomach while you're backed against a wall, what's your awesome non-violent solution?

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by Sliver

So when somebody punches you in the face twice then starts laying the beats into your stomach while you're backed against a wall, what's your awesome non-violent solution?

It better not be a hug.

[BigBrodieFan]

Originally Posted by Sliver

So when somebody punches you in the face twice then starts laying the beats into your stomach while you're backed against a wall, what's your awesome non-violent solution?

Well, if I were a boy and I had a kid who was maybe 1/4th my size punching me, I would have to pick him up, crumple him like a leaf and drive him into the concrete and risk breaking his neck or his back of course.


I guess that's the obvious answer.

[SeoulFire]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

It better not be a hug.

Actually upon looking at the video again I think that is all that happened. He simply gave the twerp a hug and lost his balance. In order to prevent serious damage to himself he had to drop the kid.

Good intentions gone bad - so sad.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

Well, if I were a boy and I had a kid who was maybe 1/4th my size punching me, I would have to pick him up, crumple him like a leaf and drive him into the concrete and risk breaking his neck or his back of course.

I guess that's the obvious answer.

Your guys' concern for the skinny a-hole and his family is blowing my mind.

I guess we know why the bullied kids get in trouble when they finally fight back - people like BBF must be in charge.