LMAO Paladin Security.

[metallicat]

Originally Posted by ken0042

I am surprised nobody responded to this.

Yes, both of my cars (2003 and 2011) both have two different settings for the high beams. Push the lever forward to turn the beams on for use on a dark highway. Pull the lever towards you to flash your beams.

(Edit- OK, finally saw it on page 8.)

I am well aware of the two different settings, that was never in question. I had simply never heard that the feature was there to warn other drivers. Perhaps that is because I don't hog the left lane, or drive to impede traffic, so I have never been "flashed". If I'm on the highway, and a car is blocking the left lane, I simply go around him on the right and carry on my merry way. I'm really not sure why that guy flipped out on me over my comment.

[Starfishy]

Is there anyone in here that believes the "headlight flash" is safer than a horn to tell a driver to pay attention?

I have heard many arguments on why the headlight flash should be used, but I can't see why people would not just prefer to use the horn. It just seems safer and less annoying for everyone involved, unless of course the point is to be annoying.

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by Starfishy

Is there anyone in here that believes the "headlight flash" is safer than a horn to tell a driver to pay attention?

I have heard many arguments on why the headlight flash should be used, but I can't see why people would not just prefer to use the horn. It just seems safer and less annoying for everyone involved, unless of course the point is to be annoying.

I think it is much safer. I use the horn to indicate impending doom as it will affect more than one driver. The headlight flash should only affect the driver in front of you.

Yes, I realize that it might be seen by drivers traveling in the opposite direction, but I was taught to not look at the headlights of oncoming traffic when driving.

[-TC-]

I rank Left Lane Bandits right up there with those who brake when approaching a green light "just in case" in terms of driving IQ and awareness.

[DementedReality]

Originally Posted by -TC-

I rank Left Lane Bandits right up there with those who brake when approaching a green light "just in case" in terms of driving IQ and awareness.

you are confused ... i have yet to see one post in this thread that advocates sitting in the left lane and playing speed police.

and yes, using the brakes while driving is an odd concept. i do get quite frustrated at those people who ride their brakes for no apparent reason.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by DementedReality

you are confused ... i have yet to see one post in this thread that advocates sitting in the left lane and playing speed police.

and yes, using the brakes while driving is an odd concept. i do get quite frustrated at those people who ride their brakes for no apparent reason.

I haven't read every post in this thread, so this is an honest question, but what is your beef/argument? You just don't like people going over the speed limit in the left lane?

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by oilers_fan

I am well aware of the two different settings, that was never in question. I had simply never heard that the feature was there to warn other drivers. Perhaps that is because I don't hog the left lane, or drive to impede traffic, so I have never been "flashed". If I'm on the highway, and a car is blocking the left lane, I simply go around him on the right and carry on my merry way. I'm really not sure why that guy flipped out on me over my comment.

Have you never used your high beams to tell someone that it's their turn at a four way stop?

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by Boblobla

I think it is much safer. I use the horn to indicate impending doom as it will affect more than one driver. The headlight flash should only affect the driver in front of you.

Or if you're trying to tell someone something while you're in a residential area. No need to create noise pollution.

[DementedReality]

Originally Posted by flameswin

I haven't read every post in this thread, so this is an honest question, but what is your beef/argument? You just don't like people going over the speed limit in the left lane?

no, my beef is people referring to the left lane as the "fast" lane.

its not. the left lane is the "pass the slower moving traffic in the right lane, lane" ... no where does that suggest its ok to speed in the left lane.

left lane is for going the speed limit in, so calling it the fast lane is a pet peeve.

[Frank MetaMusil]

I think I am going to order one of these decals

[Suzles]

Originally Posted by Starfishy

Is there anyone in here that believes the "headlight flash" is safer than a horn to tell a driver to pay attention?

I have heard many arguments on why the headlight flash should be used, but I can't see why people would not just prefer to use the horn. It just seems safer and less annoying for everyone involved, unless of course the point is to be annoying.

I suppose it is possible for a deaf person to be driving. I can pretty much guarantee that a blind person would not.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by DementedReality

no, my beef is people referring to the left lane as the "fast" lane.

its not. the left lane is the "pass the slower moving traffic in the right lane, lane" ... no where does that suggest its ok to speed in the left lane.

left lane is for going the speed limit in, so calling it the fast lane is a pet peeve.

Semantics.

If I am going faster than you, you are therefore going slower than me.

With that equation in mind, how does "slower traffic keep right" (not "pass the slower moving traffic in the right lane, lane") not apply regardless of the speed of any vehicle involved?

[DementedReality]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Semantics.

If I am going faster than you, you are therefore going slower than me.

With that equation in mind, how does "slower traffic keep right" (not "pass the slower moving traffic in the right lane, lane") not apply regardless of the speed of any vehicle involved?

i dont know if its semantics .. i think there is a clear difference between

1) cars incapable of going the posted limit, stay to the right
and
2) speeding is ok as long as you are in the left lane.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by DementedReality

i dont know if its semantics .. i think there is a clear difference between

1) cars incapable of going the posted limit, stay to the right
and
2) speeding is ok as long as you are in the left lane.

regardless of your belief whether speeding is OK or not, the rule of the road is clear and posted.

Slower traffic keep right.

It's not "slower traffic keep right unless you are doing the posted limit".

There is a very good reason the law is what it is, and it's not for you to enforce no matter what speed other vehicles are travelling. Dislike the rule if you like, report speeding if you like, but when someone is going faster than you? You are obligated to move to the right lane. Period.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Starfishy

Is there anyone in here that believes the "headlight flash" is safer than a horn to tell a driver to pay attention?

I have heard many arguments on why the headlight flash should be used, but I can't see why people would not just prefer to use the horn. It just seems safer and less annoying for everyone involved, unless of course the point is to be annoying.

How close do you have to be to the other car for them to hear your horn? The other driver could be deaf, or have their stereo very loud, or just be oblivious to the world around them.

Because people have to pass vision tests to be licensed, you can be reasonably sure that the other person can see you behind them (and God help us all if they can't). If you can see their tail lights, they can see your head lights.

If you're on the highway and approaching a vehicle driving in the left lane and you realize that you're gaining on them very quickly, you can give them a warning to move over a lot sooner with a quick flash of your lights than you can with the horn - and have a reasonable assurance that they'll see it.


Also, as for the annoyance factor: A quick flash of your high-beams takes a second or less, where you'd have to honk your horn a lot longer than that to make sure you got the other person's attention. Plus, for people around you, unless they're looking directly at the front of your car, they're not likely to even notice the headlight flash, but laying on your horn for 5 seconds will be much more annoying.

[DementedReality]

Originally Posted by transplant99

regardless of your belief whether speeding is OK or not, the rule of the road is clear and posted.

Slower traffic keep right.

It's not "slower traffic keep right unless you are doing the posted limit".

There is a very good reason the law is what it is, and it's not for you to enforce no matter what speed other vehicles are travelling. Dislike the rule if you like, report speeding if you like, but when someone is going faster than you? You are obligated to move to the right lane. Period.

for the umpeenth time, i have never advocated playing lane police. in fact i have stated over and over again, if someone is speeding up behind you, MOVE OUT OF THE WAY.

slower traffic keep right does not mean, speeding is ok in the left lane.

[TylerSVT]

Originally Posted by pylon

European manufacturers specifically german, have them set up in a specific manner for flash to pass use. For example, my GTI, has bi-xenon lights. The hi and low beam are differentiated by the level of a shutter mechanism to re-aim the lights determining if they are high or low beam. When you push the lever forward, it re-aims the bulb. The passing lights, are a separate halogen HIGH BEAM bulb next to the xenon bulb, that only trigger when you pull the stock towards you. The reason they are designed this way, is so that if your headlights are on, you are not toggling between xenon high and low beams. So if your high beams are on, it is essentially double high beams when you flash. If your low beams are are, it is low + high. They are even labelled passing lights in the owners manual.

This is as specific design, because if you are doing 250 KPH on an autobahn or autostrada, you can signal a driver ahead of you well in advance, or if you are on their tail. People coming the other way in Germany or Italy, whatever euro country you want to choose, seem to be ok with people flashing their lights on highways, and aren't blinded and suffering detached retinas and brain stems, all when they have what is closing speeds of over 500 kph in some cases. Don't see why this is such an issue on our LOL 100 kph highway system. You will find some of the best civilian drivers on the planet in germany, driving cars that embarrass what we drive here, and they have some of the safest highways on the planet, and flash to pass is perfectly legal.

Actually the reason for this is because if you pull that stock in the daytime its just running the halogen bulbs. If they were not setup this way, you would be activating your HID's every time you pulled the stock to flash someone. This would kill your Ballasts and HID bulbs very very fast.

That is the only reason for that, also we have DRL's in Canada, running HID's on reduced power is very very hard on them, hence why you have a separate Halogen High beam.

[DementedReality]

Originally Posted by fotze

I don't understand why people feel the need to regulate the speed in certain lanes, people like Demented Reality. His username sure is apt. It's as if he exists in another, alternate, demented reality than the rest of us.

are you for realz?

im not regulating anything, i am saying that the left lane is not the fast lane, it is the speed limit lane.

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by DementedReality

are you for realz?

im not regulating anything, i am saying that the left lane is not the fast lane, it is the speed limit lane.

But is it faster than the non-speed limit lane?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by DementedReality

are you for realz?

im not regulating anything, i am saying that the left lane is not the fast lane, it is the speed limit lane.

No...it isn't.

it's the if you are going faster than the other car lane...regardless of speed. Thats why the signs say what they say.

Again...its slower traffic keep right.... Not ....slower traffic keep right unless going the speed limit.

in fact i have never seen a "speed limit lane" in my life.