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DementedReality · 03-13-2011, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by puckluck

The "fast lane" is the left lane. If you're doing the speed limit get the hell outttta my way.

People who drive the speed limit in the left lane are more dumb than the people who speed.

you are incorrect. the right lane is for vehicles that are unable to do the speed limit, say due to malfunction.

the left lane is for passing those vehicles, but that is not the same as "i can speed in this lane".

otherwise, why do you get a ticket for going above the speed limit in the left lane? try using that defense in court!

TurnedTheCorner · 03-13-2011, 04:51 PM

So, slower than other traffic. Right?

Bindair Dundat · 03-13-2011, 04:58 PM

I do a fair amount of highway driving and if the posted limit is 110, I set my cruise at 118-119.
I generally use this "just under 10 over rule" in all of my dailIy driving (exception: School/Playground Zones) and have yet to be ticketed when in this parameter. I stay in the right lane for the bulk of the trip and lane change frequently as I overtake those that either choose strict adherence to the posted limit or those who are travelling slower, whether by choice, or circumstance.

When I'm in the left lane, I am anal about keeping my eye on my rearview.

If some "amateur Andretti" (as one poster put it) is closing fast and I'm passing slower traffic, I will accellerate to 125-130 and get out of his way, then drop back onto my set cruise speed.
There has been the very rare occasion where I have missed someone closing on me and been flashed. It gets your attention and I will either accelerate or pull over, depending on the situation. I do not feel "put out" in a case such as this and I really can't understand why so many people take such great offense in such a situation.

As others have pointed out, this is accepted practice in much of the rest of the world, although my "foreign" experience is limited to the Interstate system in the Western US.

It's just common courtesy...but courtesy just ain't that "common" in some parts of the world...or so it would seem. Just like the "flash" function on high beams, automakers put a rearview capability into every vehicle on the road...for a reason.

If people would use it...I wouldn't flash anyone.

Does this make me a bad/dangerous driver???

sclitheroe · 03-13-2011, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bindair Dundat

I do a fair amount of highway driving and if the posted limit is 110, I set my cruise at 118-119.

You save 15 minutes on a trip from Calgary to Edmonton assuming you can cruise at 118 instead of 110 the entire trip uninterrupted.

Aerodynamic drag increase with the square of your speed, and represents about 50% of the total drag at highway speeds. The effect on fuel economy is quite dramatic - unless shaving 0.25 hours off of 3.5 is worth it, you're paying a lot more for gas for not much gain:

The only benefit I can see to driving slightly faster than the speed limit, since the time savings over average length trips is so negligible, is that it feels a lot faster, and also requires you to change lanes and monitor traffic you are overtaking. This results in the trip feeling, subjectively, less boring and probably shorter since your driver workload is higher. It would also mean, at some level, that the trip is more fatiguing for the driver, and since your destination, not the trip, is likely your end goal, it hardly seems worth it.

puckluck · 03-13-2011, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DementedReality

you are incorrect. the right lane is for vehicles that are unable to do the speed limit, say due to malfunction.

the left lane is for passing those vehicles, but that is not the same as "i can speed in this lane".

Really? care to point where it says that?

I can at least admit I'm breaking the law and speeding in the left lane, but what you just said makes no sense at all.

And for the record I don't use my flash for people in the left lane doing the speed limit. I usually ride their bumpers until they move or I cut them off inches away from their vehicle.

MrMastodonFarm · 03-13-2011, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by puckluck

Really? care to point where it says that? .

It's a combination of two laws.

A) The Speed Limit
B) "Slower Traffic Keep Right"

I mean, I don't want to be a dick (too much), but this is fairly obvious. The speed limit is... the speed limit. Limit your speed to this. If you are unable to reach the maximum speed posted... keep right.

It's annoyingly simple.

DementedReality · 03-13-2011, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

So, slower than other traffic. Right?

exactly, those vehicles not capable of the speed limit should be on the right.

the sign doesnt say "speeders on the left" for a reason.

puckluck · 03-13-2011, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

It's a combination of two laws.

A) The Speed Limit
B) "Slower Traffic Keep Right"

I mean, I don't want to be a dick (too much), but this is fairly obvious. The speed limit is... the speed limit. Limit your speed to this. If you are unable to reach the maximum speed posted... keep right.

It's annoyingly simple.

That's not what he said. He said the right lane is used for cars that have a malfuntion or can't go the speed limit for some reason.

People who do the speed limit in the left lane are the real dicks. I don't mind cutting them off so all the power to them.

RogerWilco · 03-13-2011, 07:35 PM

Why didn't you just pass in the other lane? Although I think the dude is an idiot for reporting you to the police, the flashing the lights thing originates from NASCAR i think, are you an NASCAR driver? The law actualy states that within 200m of a car infront of you you can' use high beams.

I think there was a post before that said something about the manufacturer installed the lights for this purpose? No they are intalled so that you can see down a dark road when no other cars are around. They are not intended as a device to say get out of the way.

Just pass on the right and stop thinking you are racer boy in a NASCAR event. If you wre going the speed limit or not is beside the point. You are correct, the security guy should have been in the right lane, but it is not your job or right make him do so.

DementedReality · 03-13-2011, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by puckluck

Really? care to point where it says that?

I can at least admit I'm breaking the law and speeding in the left lane, but what you just said makes no sense at all.

And for the record I don't use my flash for people in the left lane doing the speed limit. I usually ride their bumpers until they move or I cut them off inches away from their vehicle.

well its been covered .. are you that obtuse?

if my vechiles all of sudden has a malfunction and cant operate at the speed limit, i am to use the right lane until i can safely exit the roadway.

if for whatever reason there is a car in the right lane going less then the speed limit, it is practise to pass on the left. hence the left lane is the passing lane.

this does not mean the left lane is the fast lane, unless you consider going the speed limit vs a car not going the speed limit, to be fast.

conventionally, when i hear "fast" lane, people are using it to imply thats the lane to speed in.

i have yet to hear any legal citations indicating its ok to speed, as long as you are in the "fast" lane.

MrMastodonFarm · 03-13-2011, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by puckluck

People who do the speed limit in the left lane are the real dicks. I don't mind cutting them off so all the power to them.

I don't know what else to say that I haven't already said, or others probably haven't said better. Nothing else to say besides you're wrong.

Northendzone · 03-13-2011, 07:37 PM

surprises me that the po-po called you at home.....

last year i was coming home from a hitmen game - we were headed up highfiled road on teh right and a driver in the left lane decided at the last second that he wanted to go to the right - and i did not yield to him, he followed me all the way down blackfoot and then to deerfoot and each time he pulled even with me he would give me "the look" - i noticed he was on his phone and when i pulled into my driveway the cops were right behind me with the light flashing - they wanted to check if i was drunk - as my father-in-law and son were both with me the cops thought everything was fine. my guess was that my friend decided to call the police because i did not slow down to let him in.

needless to say i was stunned to get out of my vehicle (which was parked in my garage) and see the cops in my driveway with thier lights flashing....

TurnedTheCorner · 03-13-2011, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DementedReality

exactly, those vehicles not capable of the speed limit should be on the right.

the sign doesnt say "speeders on the left" for a reason.

But it does say "Slower traffic keep right" So theoretically, if there is any traffic moving faster than a car already in the left lane, said slower car should move to the right. Imagine I'm talking about a scenario where two vehicles are incapable of meeting the speed limit are involved, of it helps. If one is going 90, and is being gained on by one going 100, the one going 90 should move to the right.

Now, extrapolate and drive accordingly. Unless you're an RCMP offer giving out tickets, that is.

DementedReality · 03-13-2011, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by puckluck

That's not what he said. He said the right lane is used for cars that have a malfuntion or can't go the speed limit for some reason.

People who do the speed limit in the left lane are the real dicks. I don't mind cutting them off so all the power to them.

both lanes are for going the speed limit.

however:
1) if your car is unable to go the speed limit, you are to use the right lane.
2) if someone is in the right lane going slower then the speed limit, use the left lane to pass
3) if you are going the speed limit in the left lane and some jagoff decides he wants to go fast than you, i recommend moving over the right lane and let him pass.

DementedReality · 03-13-2011, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

But it does say "Slower traffic keep right" So theoretically, if there is any traffic moving faster than a car already in the left lane, said slower car should move to the right. Imagine I'm talking about a scenario where two vehicles are incapable of meeting the speed limit are involved, of it helps. If one is going 90, and is being gained on by one going 100, the one going 90 should move to the right.

Now, extrapolate and drive accordingly. Unless you're an RCMP offer giving out tickets, that is.

ya, i agree .. move over so the faster car can pass.

thats not the same as agreeing that the left lane is for speeding.

Cecil Terwilliger · 03-13-2011, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

People who use the left lane for the speed limit are not dicks, they are following the law.

People who are obeying the law can still be dicks.

People may have a right to do 100 in the left lane (or 110 on the highway) but all it means is that they are legally dbags.

DementedReality · 03-13-2011, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

People who are obeying the law can still be dicks.

People may have a right to do 100 in the left lane (or 110 on the highway) but all it means is that they are legally dbags.

they are? i dont agree. the jerk who thinks he has to go above the speed limit "cuz he is a good driver" are the dbags.

its just good sense to move over and let them get as far away from you and your family as possible.

puckluck · 03-13-2011, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

People who use the left lane for the speed limit are not dicks, they are following the law.

Now, I'm not about to pretend I go exactly the speed limit, but you're being really obtuse. Especially getting all road rage about it.

I don't know what else to say that I haven't already said, or others probably haven't said better. Nothing else to say besides you're wrong.

I'm wrong in what sense? the law? Yes, obviously, but it still makes the people dicks who purposely drive the speed limit in the left lane when they know what the left lane actually means universally.

So I might be wrong when it comes to the law, but everyone and their mom knows that the left lane is used for speeding. If they don't want to be cut off or high beamed or have their bumper kissed they should stay out of the left lane.

Cecil Terwilliger · 03-13-2011, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DementedReality

they are? i dont agree. the jerk who thinks he has to go above the speed limit "cuz he is a good driver" are the dbags.

its just good sense to move over and let them get as far away from you and your family as possible.

Well if you like ignoring the rules of the road I guess. The legal rules of the road I mean.

Someone already posted a giant "slower traffic keep right" sign so I'm not going to post it again. You have an obligation to not impede the left lane traffic, speeders or not.

By staying to the right you are keeping the roads safer. Your moral judgments on speeders is irrelevant. What is important is that you get out of the way.

MacFlame · 03-13-2011, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by puckluck

The "fast lane" is the left lane. If you're doing the speed limit get the hell outttta my way.

People who drive the speed limit in the left lane are more dumb than the people who speed.

This is what gets me....

I certainly don't drive the speed limit all the time, but by no means do I think that the left lane is the "fast lane"..it is a passing lane... nothing more. What really irks me is when I'm passing someone and another car going 30 or so over the speed limit decides to ride my tail the whole way until I pass the other car...

Those folks driving the speed limit in the left lane (hopefully for passing only!) should not be forced to "move over" for someone driving over the speed limit...I'm pretty sure the law would agree with me on this one.

The people that drive the speed limit are not dumb, they're abiding by the law, a law that was created for peoples safety, clearly you have somewhat of disregard for that.

I'm sure you're a nice person, but your post comes across as ignorant and childish.