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transplant99 · 03-09-2011, 10:01 AM

Yeah I agree that this should be a major sanction/suspension for the Buckeyes. But with the full weight of the Big 10 behind him and greasing the palms of the NCAA decision makers, I won't expect anything near what it should be.

Think about this...USC not allowed to attend bowl games for 2 years, lost scholarships etc for what 1 player did on his own and without proving anyone else was aware ( Yes i realize in real life that everyone knew but that cannot be considered).

In this case we have the head coach of the team in question knowing and hiding facts from investigators while 5 of his players were involved.

Anyone want to bet that any decision against him will be anywhere near the punishment doled out against USC, when in fact it should be a whole lot worse??

The NCAA...cant do much of anything right.

PIMking · 03-09-2011, 12:42 PM

this should be the next SMU. With this and his email being leaked showing that he not only knew before hand but lied to the NCAA about it. Then having the Clarrett and Troy Smith benefit deals and Pryor's "new" test drive cars and his rep from Youngstown State should bring the title wave.

They will probably get off though, pull the Cam newton card and proving the NCAA has no backbone.

PIMking · 03-09-2011, 12:43 PM

http://www.610wtvn.com/pages/templat..._march2011.pdf

Link to said emails...

valo403 · 03-09-2011, 02:52 PM

Wow, I mean if that's not an SMU worthy offense what is? I don't think what the players did was even that bad, I'm actually fine with it, but the cover-up and and flat out lying by Tressel here is incredible. This should be a career ender, but it'll likely be a slap on the wrist if that.

nik- · 03-09-2011, 07:52 PM

They won't get anything close to SMU. SMU got the sanctions and then kept doing it, along with lying ... both times. This really isn't SMU level here.

It's still bad though, I'm sure they get their wins and Sugar Bowl from last year vacated.

PIMking · 03-09-2011, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nik-

They won't get anything close to SMU. SMU got the sanctions and then kept doing it, along with lying ... both times. This really isn't SMU level here.

It's still bad though, I'm sure they get their wins and Sugar Bowl from last year vacated.

Clarett, Smith, Pryor...

nik- · 03-09-2011, 08:54 PM

Smith was suspended by the school, not the NCAA. I'm not sure how Clarett fixes into being anything like what happened at SMU, he was just a headcase.

This latest one I agree has the makings of SMU type stuff, but this is technically the first time there will be NCAA sanctions regarding this. SMU was busted, and then did the exact same crap DURING the sanctions. There's no comparison.

I personally don't care what happens to Ohio State, and yeah it's definitely bad that the coach knew about this. All I'm saying is this isn't really anywhere near the level of SMU's Death Penalty infractions.

PIMking · 03-10-2011, 01:51 PM

OSU has been cheating and has had the most violations since Jim showed up in Columbus. He has a bad rep before from Youngstown state and he is bringing that cloud to OSU.

PIMking · 03-11-2011, 12:32 PM

4 Auburn players sitting in Lee county jail under $511,000 bond.

one player had a gun, robbery in the first degree and two other major charges. They broke into a house last night.

goodwin
mcneil (mike)
mosley
kitchen

One other charge is Burglary in the first also.

transplant99 · 03-11-2011, 02:14 PM

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Mike McNeil, Antonio Goodwin, Shaun Kitchens and Dakota Mosley were all arrested early Friday morning in Auburn, Ala. Auburn police said that three black men entered a house about three miles from campus and one displayed a handgun. Police said they stole property.

After a motor vehicle stop, the four were arrested and a pistol and stolen property were recovered, according to Auburn police. Mosley is white.

The four players were charged with five counts of first-degree robbery, one count of first-degree burglary, which are both felonies, and one count of third-degree theft. All four were being held in the Lee County Detention Center on $511,000 bail.

Later Friday, Auburn coach Gene Chizik issued a statement saying all four players were thrown off the team

Morons. Throw away at the very least a decent education and possibly a whole lot more.

nik- · 03-11-2011, 06:30 PM

holy crap!

transplant99 · 03-28-2011, 08:39 AM

With this most recent revelation concerning Tressels blatent disregard for NCAA rules, I have no idea how he comes out of this with his job and how OSU gets anything less than a 2 year ban from bowl games and loss of scholarships.

Quote:

coach Jim Tressel forwarded to a mentor of quarterback Terrelle Pryor emails that had warned the coach his players were in trouble, but Tressel did not forward the emails to school officials, The Columbus Dispatch reported Friday.

Tressel received emails from a Columbus attorney in April 2010 stating that Pryor and a teammate had been selling memorabilia items to a local tattoo-parlor owner under federal investigation

The Buckeyes coach didn't share the emails with any Ohio State staff members or NCAA officials investigating Pryor and five other players, resulting in an NCAA violation. Tressel has been suspended for the first five games of the 2011 season, in addition to being fined $250,000.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6257370

PIMking · 03-28-2011, 12:17 PM

If the NCAA had a backbone they would bring the hammer down now. If the big10 had a backbone they would bring the hammer down too. OSU needs to fire this guy now before it gets too bad. With all of his extraordinary secondary violations that he has accumulated during his time in Columbus and his players being paid the University needs to cut ties with him.

Bruce Pearl lied to the NCAA and came clean before they could find out and he got 6 games of SEC games from the SEC commish Mike Slive and he still lost his job. What Jim has done is lie, add more lies on to that then get caught and add lies on to that.

Lets also not try to spin this "mentor" off as anything other than an agent. What I find so funny is that Jim Delany (Big10 commish) opened his mouth about how the SEC allowed Scam Newton pass and didn't act fast nor hard enough and yet this happens in his conference and he has yet to even have a press conference.

Great the guy gets a 5 game suspension so that's the 3 instate Ohio schools and two worthless big 10 teams. woopie doo.

PIMking · 03-29-2011, 08:36 PM

If you have HBO watch real sports tomorrow.... The Ohio State, LSU and Auburn fans and the rest of the CFB world will have their doors blown off.

transplant99 · 03-30-2011, 08:16 AM

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"Somebody came to me, I don't even know this person and he was like, 'we would love for you to come to LSU and he gave me a handshake and it had five hundred dollars in there," McClover said in the HBO special, an advance copy of which was obtained by Sports by Brooks. "That's called a money handshake ... I grabbed it and I'm like, 'wow,' hell I thought ten dollars was a lot of money back then."

McClover told "Real Sports" that boosters from Auburn, Michigan State and Ohio State also arranged for him to get money and other inducements such as sexual services when he was being recruited in 2003. He originally committed to Ohio State but switched his commitment to Auburn after receiving cash that he said persuaded him to change his commitment. On that occasion, he said the cash was delivered in a bookbag. The amount was not disclosed.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6272478

Montana Moe · 03-30-2011, 09:54 AM

Is anyone really surprised by this?

We've all known that these things go on, the only difference is that people are talking about it. Not sure this is any kind of revelation.

transplant99 · 03-30-2011, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Montana Moe

Is anyone really surprised by this?

We've all known that these things go on, the only difference is that people are talking about it. Not sure this is any kind of revelation.

No it isn't much of a revelation per se, but what it will do is force the NCAA to clean themselves up on top of the individual programs. Those are some big time players within the NCAA bubble, and anything short of major sanctions will be unacceptable to some really important people.

The NCAA, quite simply, is shameful in their decision making depending on who is committing the infractions. The whole Ohio State players can play a bowl game but have to be suspended this year, the Cam Newton absolute scandal that they wont talk about, dropping 2 years on USC for a player accepting money in comparison....etc etc.

This will bring heat on them as an orginization and if they don't respond in a satisfactory manner, they will be hearing from a much higher power whom they really wish to avoid at this point.

More stuff to come no doubt and UT may be one of them.

valo403 · 03-30-2011, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by transplant99

No it isn't much of a revelation per se, but what it will do is force the NCAA to clean themselves up on top of the individual programs. Those are some big time players within the NCAA bubble, and anything short of major sanctions will be unacceptable to some really important people.

The NCAA, quite simply, is shameful in their decision making depending on who is committing the infractions. The whole Ohio State players can play a bowl game but have to be suspended this year, the Cam Newton absolute scandal that they wont talk about, dropping 2 years on USC for a player accepting money in comparison....etc etc.

This will bring heat on them as an orginization and if they don't respond in a satisfactory manner, they will be hearing from a much higher power whom they really wish to avoid at this point.

More stuff to come no doubt and UT may be one of them.

Auburn is the only school that could have action taken against it based on those allegations, the alleged 2003 incidents are outside of the statute of limitations.

FlamingLonghorn · 03-31-2011, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by transplant99

More stuff to come no doubt and UT may be one of them.

Is this just speculation on your part? And are you referring to Texas or Tennessee? The only thing I've heard about Texas is the sexual harassment stuff.

Article came out today about guy Oregon paid to get a recruit (Lache Seastrunk) also asked A&M for 80k for Patrick Peterson's services a couple years back. A&M said no way. LSU ended up with him.

Displaced Flames fan · 04-13-2011, 07:47 PM

New uniforms for my adopted Sun Devils.

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