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Old 03-05-2011, 01:36 PM   #41
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Wait - there's joy in being a parent? When does it kick in?
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Old 03-05-2011, 01:40 PM   #42
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Wait - there's joy in being a parent? When does it kick in?
The day your kid decided to get off your lap and take a leak in the toilet rather than just letting lose on your leg.
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Old 03-05-2011, 01:44 PM   #43
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I think it's the day when they're old enough that you can finally start living vicariously through them. For the first 3-4 years it's pretty weak.
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Old 03-05-2011, 01:49 PM   #44
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There are things before that that are enjoyable. But theres a lot of trying times and frustration too. But for me, I look at it this way. 30 minutes from now when my kid gets up from his nap I'll have to take him to a walk in medical clinic to have a Dr. tell me nothing about the hives he has after his one year immunizations yesterday. That will suck, will be no fun and frustrating. But if I didn't have him, I'd be fighting with my wife about going to the mall and why she really didn't need that extra pair of shoes.

No matter what choices I make in life something is going to annoy and frustrate me. This just seems to bother me less than the other trivial crap I let do that to me in the past.
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Old 03-05-2011, 02:00 PM   #45
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i have three kids, and a fourth will be here soon enough.

There is absolutely no chance that if i didn't have these kids i would be 4 million dollars richer in 20 years, or have 4 million dollars worth of more stuff.
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Not at all, as I've said, I would rather start with LA over any of the other WC playoff teams. Bunch of underachievers who look good on paper but don't even deserve to be in the playoffs.
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Old 03-05-2011, 02:07 PM   #46
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Hey, I was pretty spoiled growing up, didn't have to pay for University. I know people who get helped out by their parents from time to time, but it is the people who are continually helped out until they are 45 that are the ones to be ashamed. You should never be ashamed to have folks that made good life choices.
Okay sorry just some miscommunication. When I meant lifetime I didn't mean taking care of them until they were 80. But I meant additional heating, food, gas, maybe a bigger house than you would normally need, education, sports, etc. Just because someone turns 18 doesn't mean a parent stops taking care of them.

But just for the record if my mom wants to give me $500 when I'm 45 I ain't going to turn it down.
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I believe that children are our future.

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Old 03-05-2011, 06:11 PM   #48
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Old 03-05-2011, 06:26 PM   #49
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I'm really not surprised at all by the results. Just based on the disgusted looks we get from the "breeders" our age when we tell them we don't have kids nor want them right now.
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Old 03-05-2011, 07:27 PM   #50
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I guess I'm the only person who knows people that get helped out by their parents just because. I don't think it has anything to do with being leachy, but just family helping family when they can. And personally I plan on not having kids because I wouldn't want someone growing up in this messed up world as it continues to get worse and worse.
Perhaps if you cut down on the weed smoking you wouldn't have to, ahem, "be helped out" by your family.
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Old 03-05-2011, 07:31 PM   #51
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For the males, it seems to come slowly as they age. I think kids come out of the womb 1.75 years to early. They clearly aren't ready yet.

When your kid starts playing hockey, thats pretty awesome.
It must be awkward if you're a Dad, and your boy gets to the age when all the kids join hockey, and your kid just flat out doesn't want to play. That would have to be a pretty deflating moment.

"Hey Sean, my boys just signed up for hockey, you signed your kid up yet? I know all the other guys have, it's gonna be great getting up for practices, getting together and cheering at the games. It's going to be a whole new life for us!"

"Uhh, my boy isn't going to play hockey"

"Oh....okay, well I guess we'll still see you at our annual BBQ or something"

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Old 03-05-2011, 07:33 PM   #52
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It must be awkward if you're a Dad, and your boy gets to the age when all the kids join hockey, and your kid just flat out doesn't want to play. That would have to be a pretty deflating moment.

"Hey Sean, my boys just signed up for hockey, you signed your kid up yet? I know all the other guys have, it's gonna be great getting up for practices, getting together and cheering at the games. It's going to be a whole new life for us!"

"Uhh, my boy isn't going to play hockey"

"Oh....okay, well I guess we'll still see you our annual BBQ or something"
I never had a choice. What 6 year old is thrilled about waking up at 6 am on a saturday to go to practice? It didnt really become optional for me until I was 12 or 13. If I end up with boys, I'll be forcing them into hockey kicking and screaming if I have to.
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The non-athletic kids are kind of cool too, they tend to be a bit weird and have more personality
So is this what your mom would tell you when you came home cut from all the school teams?
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Getting back to the actual study, it's also possible that people who don't have children are expressing a disposition towards self-fulfillment instead of self-sacrifice, and this disposition expresses itself in greater happiness as these people are focused on making themselves happy. In other words, it's not that having children makes you unhappy, it's that you are more interested in having children than happiness.
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It must be awkward if you're a Dad, and your boy gets to the age when all the kids join hockey, and your kid just flat out doesn't want to play. That would have to be a pretty deflating moment.

"Hey Sean, my boys just signed up for hockey, you signed your kid up yet? I know all the other guys have, it's gonna be great getting up for practices, getting together and cheering at the games. It's going to be a whole new life for us!"

"Uhh, my boy isn't going to play hockey"

"Oh....okay, well I guess we'll still see you at our annual BBQ or something"
There are other sports, you know!
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Old 03-05-2011, 08:36 PM   #56
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The two sports I'm interested in getting my son into are hockey and rodeo. My wife says over her dead body for both. So...that's a maybe?

There have been ups and downs (Little Goon is almost six months old now) but it's amazing how something as simple as a smile or a few seconds of gibberish can make you feel awesome for a bit.
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Perhaps if you cut down on the weed smoking you wouldn't have to, ahem, "be helped out" by your family.
lol Good one.
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Getting back to the actual study, it's also possible that people who don't have children are expressing a disposition towards self-fulfillment instead of self-sacrifice, and this disposition expresses itself in greater happiness as these people are focused on making themselves happy. In other words, it's not that having children makes you unhappy, it's that you are more interested in having children than happiness.
I'd tend to agree.
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