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Old 02-24-2011, 08:51 AM   #1
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http://www.apple.com/macosx/lion

Releases in the summer, but the first developer preview was released this morning. Some new features that were announced (in addition to the ones announced last Oct)...

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- Mail 5 A new version of Mail, with an elegant, widescreen layout inspired by the iPad. Includes Conversations, which automatically groups related messages into one easy to read timeline, and more powerful search and support for Exchange 2010
- Versions Automatically saves successive versions of your document as you create it, and gives you an easy way to browse, edit and even revert to previous versions
- AirDrop A remarkably simple way to copy files wirelessly from one Mac to another with no setup;
- Resume Conveniently brings your apps back exactly how you left them when you restart your Mac or quit and relaunch an app;
- Auto Save Automatically saves your documents as you work;
- FileVault Updated to provided high performance full disk encryption for local and external drives, and the ability to wipe data from your Mac instantaneously

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/02/24/...-mac-os-x-lion

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Old 02-24-2011, 11:11 AM   #2
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I'm still having trouble finding a use for launchpad (iphone esque tile display for your apps). For apps not in the dock I don't see how launching via spotlight or an app like alfred isn't much more simple. Some of those other gestures are pretty nice though.
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love the look of the new mail..might subscribe to the dev program tonight to test this preview out..
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I'm still having trouble finding a use for launchpad (iphone esque tile display for your apps). For apps not in the dock I don't see how launching via spotlight or an app like alfred isn't much more simple. Some of those other gestures are pretty nice though.
I'd prefer the quicksilver approach myself. I don't have many items in my taskbar to start with.
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Another significant development is that the Server and Client versions of the OS are being unified. You'll be able to run a mail/web/vpn/directory services/software update/file&print server from any OS X Lion box.

Limited value for most people, but I'm looking forward to playing around with it.
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Another significant development is that the Server and Client versions of the OS are being unified. You'll be able to run a mail/web/vpn/directory services/software update/file&print server from any OS X Lion box.

Limited value for most people, but I'm looking forward to playing around with it.
what about iTunes? Could we have one machine be an iTunes server?
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I'd prefer the quicksilver approach myself. I don't have many items in my taskbar to start with.
Have you tried Alfred? I've heard many people say it's better than quicksilver. Truthfully i don't see it but it seems more light weight and less buggy. The clipboard functionality alone is outstanding.
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Have you tried Alfred? I've heard many people say it's better than quicksilver. Truthfully i don't see it but it seems more light weight and less buggy. The clipboard functionality alone is outstanding.
I *love* alfred. first tried it on the mac app store, then bought the "powerpack" from their website...

simply amazing stuff
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What's the difference between Alfred & Quicksilver?

Also the Lion beta is available on the app store?
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What's the difference between Alfred & Quicksilver?
One is Batman's butler, the other is the son of Magnito.
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One is Batman's butler, the other is the son of Magnito.
You got a laugh from me.

You'd think someone nerdy enough to know that would spell Magneto correctly.
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What's the difference between Alfred & Quicksilver?

Also the Lion beta is available on the app store?
Quicksilver is a few years old, is very robust, free and does a ton of stuff. Problem is that nobody has been working on it so (I've found) it can be a little buggy at times.

Alfred feels a little "lighter" to me, but that's possibly because it does less at the moment. The free version is in the app store and it acts mainly as an application launcher. If you buy the powerpack (around $15 I believe) it opens up a wider variety of features more similar to quicksilver (open with, move files around, control itunes etc). Sure it sucks having to pay for what quicksilver does for free, but there's a reason quicksilver is no longer supported by the developer. I'd rather pay money and have an app that will be worked on and kept somewhat stable. Free apps that rule tend to scare me a little.

What I really like is the clipboard functionality. A hot key combination of your choosing brings up a list of the things you've copied to your clipboard each with their own key to insert. Saves me loads of time.

As for Lion, I'm pretty certain you need to be registered as a developer first.
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As for Lion, I'm pretty certain you need to be registered as a developer first.
To be clear, you have to have a Mac developer license. iOS won't cut it.

In regards to the quicksilver question you asked Russ.. I have Alfred, but never got around to trying to set it up. I guess I just have quicksilver working exactly as I want it to work, so I haven't bothered with anything else.

When I end up getting Lion, I might switch, because as you said, I don't think it will be updated sufficiently quick enough.
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You got a laugh from me.

You'd think someone nerdy enough to know that would spell Magneto correctly.
I'm so ashamed.
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To be clear, you have to have a Mac developer license. iOS won't cut it.

In regards to the quicksilver question you asked Russ.. I have Alfred, but never got around to trying to set it up. I guess I just have quicksilver working exactly as I want it to work, so I haven't bothered with anything else.

When I end up getting Lion, I might switch, because as you said, I don't think it will be updated sufficiently quick enough.
I think if you're still actively using quicksilver without complaint there's not too much incentive to move to Alfred. Part of quicksilver is the learning curve to really utilize it as a power tool. If you already have that then Alfred may let you down.

I'm still trying to get a good feel for alfred ... I can't quite figure out how to drill through folders which is pretty essential. (edit ... right arrow apparently is this mystery button I was missing).

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Couple of updates:

OS X Lion adds TRIM Support for those rockin SSD's
Minimum Core 2 Duo required for Lion.
Seperate Recovery partition added so no longer will need recovery disk/usb
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Couple of updates:

OS X Lion adds TRIM Support for those rockin SSD's
Minimum Core 2 Duo required for Lion.
Seperate Recovery partition added so no longer will need recovery disk/usb
Nice!

Edit: Also, Apple's finally inviting the security community to their (usually) private developer preview. This is the first time they've ever done this, as far as I know.

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Apple not only released a preview of its next operating system, Mac OS X Lion, to developers today, the company is also giving it to security experts for review.

"I wanted to let you know that I've requested that you be invited to the prerelease seed of Mac OS X Lion, and you should receive an invitation soon," said a letter sent by Apple to an unknown number of security researchers. "As you have reported Mac OS X security issues in the past, I thought that you might be interested in taking a look at this. It contains several improvements in the area of security countermeasures."

Dino Dai Zovi and several other researchers tweeted about being invited to try out the prerelease version of the new Mac OS. "This looks to be a step in the direction of opening up a bit and inviting more dialogue with external researchers," Dai Zovi wrote. "I won't be able to comment on it until its release, but hooray for free access!"
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20036218-83.html

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So if a Lion is the king of the cats where do they go next? OSX Sabretooth?
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If I'm not mistaken, the cat theme was only for OS X.

Next up: OS XI.
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