02-23-2011, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by transplant99
One of my guilty pleasures when I lived in Canada. I have since weened mysefl of it because the crap they try and pass off in the USA as Cheez Whiz is unedible IMO.
So I may pay 29$ for it NOW and I dont live in Eskimoland.
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FYI, and you probably are not aware, but the term Eskimo is considering by most Inuit as derogatory. Most people in the US prbably don't realize it as the Inuit in Alaska don't mind it but it could get you into trouble some day.
Just a heads up.
Also, if people want, I can give a pretty interesting list of prices for some food here in the North.
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02-23-2011, 12:48 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Calgary.
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^^ Eskimo is offensive? Didn't know that! Well, consider this Hoser Eh-Hole informed.....!
That said, I don't think Eskimo officially makes the cut until it hits this list:
http://gyral.blackshell.com/names.html
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02-23-2011, 01:11 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WilsonFourTwo
^^ Eskimo is offensive? Didn't know that! Well, consider this Hoser Eh-Hole informed.....!
That said, I don't think Eskimo officially makes the cut until it hits this list:
http://gyral.blackshell.com/names.html
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I think the reason it is offensive is because it is a blanket term that refers to all aboriginal people of the arctic regardless of their ethnicity (Inuit, Innu, etc...). It would be like ignoring the various nationalities in Africa and calling them all the same thing because of a similar physical characteristic. I also think the terms means "eaters of raw meat" or something like that, which isn't all that flattering.
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02-23-2011, 01:13 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Nufy
For me there are a few items where there are no substitutes...
Cheeze Whiz and Miracle Whip are two of them...
So yeah I probably would....
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What a stunner, a Newfie that lives off of Miracle Whip and Cheez Whiz. Never heard that one before
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02-23-2011, 01:22 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Calgary.
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
I think the reason it is offensive is because it is a blanket term that refers to all aboriginal people of the arctic regardless of their ethnicity (Inuit, Innu, etc...). It would be like ignoring the various nationalities in Africa and calling them all the same thing because of a similar physical characteristic. I also think the terms means "eaters of raw meat" or something like that, which isn't all that flattering.
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Ya, my response was more "tongue-in-cheek" than anything else. Admittedly, I had no idea that Eskimo was viewed as offensive.
One thing's for certain, I wouldn't dare get in the way of someone wanting to exercise their right to be offended.....
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02-23-2011, 01:26 PM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MJK
FYI, and you probably are not aware, but the term Eskimo is considering by most Inuit as derogatory. Most people in the US prbably don't realize it as the Inuit in Alaska don't mind it but it could get you into trouble some day.
Just a heads up.
Also, if people want, I can give a pretty interesting list of prices for some food here in the North.
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Whoops....had no idea that was considered offensive or in bad taste. They must really hate the Edmonton football team then!!
Apologies to anyone offended, as it was moreso a generic term to describe the way North part of the world.
And yes...the prices would be a most interesting read I would think.
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02-23-2011, 03:19 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by valo403
What a stunner, a Newfie that lives off of Miracle Whip and Cheez Whiz. Never heard that one before 
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02-23-2011, 03:39 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: N/A
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Northern Prices:
4L Milk - $14
A case of 12 pop - $26
1 Pop - $2.60
Loaf of Bread - $6
Bag of Chips - $6
Fruit Tray - $40
12" Pizza - $30
Bag of Breaded Chicken - $60
Can of Oysters - $5
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02-23-2011, 03:47 PM
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#29
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Has lived the dream!
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Where I lay my head is home...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
One of my guilty pleasures when I lived in Canada. I have since weened mysefl of it because the crap they try and pass off in the USA as Cheez Whiz is unedible IMO.
So I may pay 29$ for it NOW and I dont live in Eskimoland.
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Are you saying there is a worse/more fake/higher plastic version of Cheeze Whiz?
This is possible? People eat that?
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02-23-2011, 03:48 PM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MJK
FYI, and you probably are not aware, but the term Eskimo is considering by most Inuit as derogatory. Most people in the US prbably don't realize it as the Inuit in Alaska don't mind it but it could get you into trouble some day.
Just a heads up.
Also, if people want, I can give a pretty interesting list of prices for some food here in the North.
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As I understood it "eskimo" may have been coined to mean "raw meat eater".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo
In Canada and Greenland, the term Eskimo has fallen out of favour, as it is considered pejorative by the natives and has been replaced by the term Inuit.
Two principal competing etymologies have been proposed for the name "Eskimo", both from the Innu-aimun (Montagnais) language. The most commonly accepted today appears to be the proposal of Ives Goddard at the Smithsonian Institution, who derives it from the Montagnais word meaning "snowshoe-netter".[5] The word assime·w means "she laces a snowshoe" in Montagnais. Montagnais speakers refer to the neighbouring Mi'kmaq people using words that sound very much like eskimo.[6][7]
Jose Mailhot, a Quebec anthropologist who speaks Montagnais, however, published a paper in 1978 which suggested that the meaning is "people who speak a different language".[8][9]
The primary reason that Eskimo is considered derogatory is the arguable, but widespread perception[5][8][9][10] that in Algonkian languages it means "eaters of raw meat."[11][12] One Cree speaker suggested the original word that became corrupted to Eskimo might indeed have been askamiciw (which means "he eats it raw"), and the Inuit are referred to in some Cree texts as askipiw (which means "eats something raw.")[13] The majority of academic linguists do not agree. Nevertheless, it is commonly felt in Canada and Greenland that the term Eskimo is pejorative.[1][14][15][16][17]
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02-23-2011, 03:49 PM
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#31
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Has lived the dream!
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Where I lay my head is home...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MJK
FYI, and you probably are not aware, but the term Eskimo is considering by most Inuit as derogatory. Most people in the US prbably don't realize it as the Inuit in Alaska don't mind it but it could get you into trouble some day.
Just a heads up.
Also, if people want, I can give a pretty interesting list of prices for some food here in the North.
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Isn't it kinda like calling a Native American an Indian?
Not PC, and not correct, but hardly a slur.
I guess people get offended by a lot nowadays though. And they do have the right to decide what they want to be called.
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02-23-2011, 03:52 PM
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#32
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Daradon
Isn't it kinda like calling a Native American an Indian?
Not PC, and not correct, but hardly a slur.
I guess people get offended by a lot nowadays though. And they do have the right to decide what they want to be called.
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One means eater of raw flesh, the other is a geographical misrepresentation. I'd say theres a slight difference.
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02-23-2011, 04:00 PM
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NOT a cool kid
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MJK
Northern Prices:
4L Milk - $14
A case of 12 pop - $26
1 Pop - $2.60
Loaf of Bread - $6
Bag of Chips - $6
Fruit Tray - $40
12" Pizza - $30
Bag of Breaded Chicken - $60
Can of Oysters - $5
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So If I wanted to have a pizza, some pop and a couple bags of chips while watching a game.... it would cost me $68 bucks?
Jebus... and people complain about the dome prices....
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02-23-2011, 08:34 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Elbows Up!!
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but that list is missing the essentials!
what about beer and whiskey?
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02-23-2011, 09:07 PM
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#35
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MJK
Northern Prices:
4L Milk - $14
A case of 12 pop - $26
1 Pop - $2.60
Loaf of Bread - $6
Bag of Chips - $6
Fruit Tray - $40
12" Pizza - $30
Bag of Breaded Chicken - $60
Can of Oysters - $5
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Lots of KD in your diet eh?
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02-23-2011, 09:32 PM
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Retired
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Man, there is a lot to be made in the arctic food running business.
But in all seriousness... I understand there are many different circumstances, but should Canadians pay to subsidize areas which aren't economically viable enough to sustain themselves?
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02-23-2011, 09:49 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by troutman
As I understood it "eskimo" may have been coined to mean "raw meat eater".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo
In Canada and Greenland, the term Eskimo has fallen out of favour, as it is considered pejorative by the natives and has been replaced by the term Inuit.
Two principal competing etymologies have been proposed for the name "Eskimo", both from the Innu-aimun (Montagnais) language. The most commonly accepted today appears to be the proposal of Ives Goddard at the Smithsonian Institution, who derives it from the Montagnais word meaning "snowshoe-netter".[5] The word assime·w means "she laces a snowshoe" in Montagnais. Montagnais speakers refer to the neighbouring Mi'kmaq people using words that sound very much like eskimo.[6][7]
Jose Mailhot, a Quebec anthropologist who speaks Montagnais, however, published a paper in 1978 which suggested that the meaning is "people who speak a different language".[8][9]
The primary reason that Eskimo is considered derogatory is the arguable, but widespread perception[5][8][9][10] that in Algonkian languages it means "eaters of raw meat."[11][12] One Cree speaker suggested the original word that became corrupted to Eskimo might indeed have been askamiciw (which means "he eats it raw"), and the Inuit are referred to in some Cree texts as askipiw (which means "eats something raw.")[13] The majority of academic linguists do not agree. Nevertheless, it is commonly felt in Canada and Greenland that the term Eskimo is pejorative.[1][14][15][16][17]
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Considering the Cree and the Inuit were enemies, the Inuit wouldn't be too enamored with having to be named by the Cree.
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02-23-2011, 09:56 PM
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#38
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Lifetime In Suspension
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Originally Posted by McG
but that list is missing the essentials!
what about beer and whiskey?
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IIRC those are cost prohibitive. I drink far too much to be able to move that far north, unless I want to start my own seal blubber distillery.
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02-23-2011, 10:50 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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I'm curious - since people living "up there" have northern allowances and probably an employer pay scale that takes into account the cost of living - does working the same job up there balance out in terms of buying power? In other words, does your pay while living up north mean that a $60 bag of breaded chicken is no big deal (ie. the same to you as a $20 bag is here to me)
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02-24-2011, 04:55 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: N/A
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It's normal to me now and I pay the prices. What I do find strange now is going back 'down south' and seeing a case of coke for $3.99...I then find myself buying a ton of coke I don't even need or want and am just buying it because it is cheap.
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