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Old 02-22-2011, 07:55 AM   #181
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Can't help but dislike the NBA even more, with how this played out.
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:11 AM   #182
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Personally I think this is an awful trade for the Knicks..... Felton, Chandler, and Gallinari are all fairly young, and are all averaging 15+ ppg for the Knicks this season. Granted it's not like I follow the Knicks, but to pay this much in a trade for a guy who demanded a trade and only wanted to go to one team seems a little ridiculous. Does this even make the Knicks a better team?
He didn't demand a trade he just stated he wants to play in NY and actually told them ahead of time he likely wouldn't sign. Pretty nice move when you compare it to Bosh and James leading the team on for months and then bolting. Denver at least has a chance at being a good team next season because he was open with them.

Scary lineup in NY now.
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Old 02-22-2011, 10:51 AM   #183
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He didn't demand a trade he just stated he wants to play in NY and actually told them ahead of time he likely wouldn't sign. Pretty nice move when you compare it to Bosh and James leading the team on for months and then bolting. Denver at least has a chance at being a good team next season because he was open with them.

Scary lineup in NY now.
He demanded a trade by saying he wasn't going to re-sign in Denver and then talked about his desire to play in New York. He still played hard for the Nuggets though, and would've played out his contract as it stood. But with the American sports media shoving this story down our throats along with the possibility of the death of the small market in the NBA. I don't hate the player, I hate what the game has become.
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Old 02-22-2011, 11:32 AM   #184
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:06 PM   #185
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"There's no telling what might happen next year," DeRozan said. "Somebody might use a trampoline."
That's pretty funny.
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:23 PM   #186
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Is the draft this year really that bad, that the Raptors had to trade their first-round pick (likely top-5) to Chicago for James Johnson?! What kind of move is that?!
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:24 PM   #187
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Is the draft this year really that bad, that the Raptors had to trade their first-round pick (likely top-5) to Chicago for James Johnson?! What kind of move is that?!
Miami's 1st round pick

so more in the 28-30 range
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Old 02-22-2011, 05:11 PM   #188
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He did but there were no close wins for the Pistons in the series in which he would have made a big shot to win the game. The Pistons lost the game that went into OT that year.
I remember Billups making several huge 3pts on broken plays that post-season, I disagree with your assesment.

He's not a key offensive guy though, he should fit in well.
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Old 02-22-2011, 07:09 PM   #189
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at least he was great in the d-league

F James Johnson is expected to return from a D-League assignment soon. He made the most of his time with the Iowa Energy, averaging 20.3 points, 8.1 rebounds and 2.4 blocks while shooting .562 from the field and .929 from the foul line in his first seven games.

honestly though if you were going to move a late first for a player like johnson i dunno why you wouldn't look at terence williams at houston now. attitude issues but the guy is extremely skilled and would be great alongside derozan on the wing
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Old 02-22-2011, 10:06 PM   #190
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at least he was great in the d-league

F James Johnson is expected to return from a D-League assignment soon. He made the most of his time with the Iowa Energy, averaging 20.3 points, 8.1 rebounds and 2.4 blocks while shooting .562 from the field and .929 from the foul line in his first seven games.

honestly though if you were going to move a late first for a player like johnson i dunno why you wouldn't look at terence williams at houston now. attitude issues but the guy is extremely skilled and would be great alongside derozan on the wing
I'm not countering your d-league quote, but everyone in the NBA who plays in the d-league tears it up. It's a league of self promotion.

I'm disappointed in this deal really simply because IMO, the Raps would have been better off holding the pick and say they land the 4th overall, perhaps they could have packaged the 29th overall pick with the 4th to move into 3rd if they really liked a player. I'm not completely writing this new guy off, but his numbers are poo, and will probably not change much.
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Old 02-22-2011, 10:13 PM   #191
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I remember Billups making several huge 3pts on broken plays that post-season, I disagree with your assesment.

He's not a key offensive guy though, he should fit in well.
There was a stats website that compiled stats for game winning shots and Billups was terrible in that stat compared to other guys in the league taking a lot of the same shots.

I think over 5 years he hit something like 10% of the shots in the last 20 seconds that would have given his team the lead.
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Old 02-22-2011, 11:19 PM   #192
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Billups clutch stats (4th quarter or OT, less than 5 mins left, neither team ahead by more than 5 points):

2009/10: .470 FG%, .419 3PT%, .790 FT%.
37.7 pts, 6.0 reb, 6.4 ast per 48 mins.

2008/09: .404 FG%, .350 3PT%, .890 FT%.
32.1 pts, 4.3 reb, 9.6 ast per 48 mins.

2007/08: .457 FG%, .278 3PT%, .910 FT%.
38.5 pts, 4.3 reb, 7.4 ast per 48 mins.

His clutch stats aren't bad. His game-winning shots on the other hand are terrible (from 03-04 thru 08-09):

6/37 - .162 FG%
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Old 02-22-2011, 11:39 PM   #193
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Good on DeRozen. Just saw a few clips the night of, and as soon as I saw a car, and then two baskets, time to turn the channel. Glad to see he did some classic stuff, ala Carter.

Things went downhill in that soon after Carter's spectacular performance oh so many years ago when extra players on the court and silly props were brought in, and now this.

I realize its for the fans, but its as silly and unrealistic as having Ovechkin driving the zamboni while stickhandling with an extra long stick in the breakaway competition.

I can see the trampoline coming into play too. They'll get Marv Albert out there out of his broadcast seat to launch himself off of it, banking it off the glass to a dunk competitor or David Stern.
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Old 02-23-2011, 09:22 AM   #194
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For those that follow such things....

The Nets have traded for Deron Williams from Utah.

Edit: A couple of the tealking heads are saying that Williams going to the Nets is a better deal than had they acquired Anthony.

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/n...ory?id=6150419

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Old 02-23-2011, 10:33 AM   #195
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For those that follow such things....

The Nets have traded for Deron Williams from Utah.

Edit: A couple of the tealking heads are saying that Williams going to the Nets is a better deal than had they acquired Anthony.

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/n...ory?id=6150419
That's a great trade for New Jersey, as long as they can get Williams to resign or extend after next season. Otherwise, they gave up on a promising rookie with no long-term return.
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Old 02-23-2011, 12:10 PM   #196
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Shocking the amount of turnover the usually-stable Jazz have gone through this year.
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Old 02-23-2011, 02:26 PM   #197
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So ... rumours of a rift between Williams and Jerry Sloan. So Jerry Sloan retires and then they trade Williams. haha man.
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:07 PM   #198
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Is tomorrow the NBA Trade Deadline?
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Old 02-23-2011, 07:26 PM   #199
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Is tomorrow the NBA Trade Deadline?
Correct!
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Old 02-23-2011, 11:08 PM   #200
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IMO, it's as much as a win-win for each team. Deron is a great PG. I'm not sure about the best (that IMO belongs to Nash, then Paul), but anyhoo, the Jazz apparently now not only get a solid fairly young PG who's fallen on some hard times the past couple seasons in Harris, but also get a highly thought of prospect in Favours and two very high first rounders. I think it's a better return than Melo as well simply because Williams will make those around him better. Plus it fits well with their team already having a big in Lopez, having a super skilled PG around already has the starting blocks of something good. Good all around.
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