Help on a no proof of insurance ticket

Originally Posted by Thor

When I went to my insurance after being pulled over without my insurance proof, the agents told me the police had no right to ask for it.

Not sure if that is true, but they said next time tell the police you are insured and that they can contact your insurer to prove it.

Ummm no.... so far from the truth...

Unless your a Freeman

[Travis Munroe]

Its a $172 ticket...at least the one hanging on my clip board is.
I plead not guilty as the crown told me that its never a bad idea to show up with proof of insurance and showing an honest harmless mistake to the judge.
Ill let you know how it goes.... they are so backed up I dont get in until next November.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Thor

When I went to my insurance after being pulled over without my insurance proof, the agents told me the police had no right to ask for it.

Not sure if that is true, but they said next time tell the police you are insured and that they can contact your insurer to prove it.

That's why insurance agents are not lawyers.

If the cops ask for it and you refuse to show it they'll ticket you for failing to produce proof of insurance as listed above.

Its up to you to prove that you have insurance, not the police.

[3 Justin 3]

Originally Posted by Thor

When I went to my insurance after being pulled over without my insurance proof, the agents told me the police had no right to ask for it.

Not sure if that is true, but they said next time tell the police you are insured and that they can contact your insurer to prove it.

You crazy Icelandic's!

[T@T]

Originally Posted by puckluck

What? the ticket was for failing to show proof not failure to have insurance.

You can't get off failure to show proof by showing proof at another time. You probably got a more expensive failure to have insurance ticket.

In both cases my pink slips were expired, in both cases I told the cop I'll get you the proper one "today" as I just forgot to put the new one in the glovebox. In both cases I get $172.00 ticket and both are thrown out of court.

[Northendzone]

i thought that most traffic tickets allowed you the option to pay for the ticket with some volunteer work?

[ricoFlame]

this "poor student" crap has always pissed me off. Being a "poor student" doesn't prevent you from being a "responsible adult"

[hatty]

I've had that happen to me and a friend before where the cop cuts you a break and then "politely" (in my case he actually did politely ask) to not take it to court. But i am pretty sure that if you go see the First appearance Judge and not go all the way to court for the ticket, they will reduce the fine. You only have to see the cop if you decide to have a court date set, otherwise they usually cut you a deal and you can take that at a reduced fine and then i believe everything is still okay.

Hope it works out

[TSXCman]

Call POINTTS and ask for an assessment (free), and ask if Charlie is able to represent you.

They will ask you to fax in the ticket, and will explain to you your options. Then you can decide on which path to take.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by TSXCman

Call POINTTS and ask for an assessment (free), and ask if Charlie is able to represent you.

They will ask you to fax in the ticket, and will explain to you your options. Then you can decide on which path to take.

Although you will pay Charlie more than your fine would have been, which doesn't make sense if it isn't demit offense.

[robocop]

You are effing lucky is all I have to say. pay it and thank god that the cop wasn't having a bad day

[T@T]

Originally Posted by ricoFlame

this "poor student" crap has always pissed me off. Being a "poor student" doesn't prevent you from being a "responsible adult"

Please with the model citizen crap, the traps the cops set up are cash grabs plain and simple. the guy obviously wasn't speeding at a high rate or he wouldn't have gotten let off..I fail to see how this cop was a "good" guy by letting him off on a lower ticket and giving him a high one on a BS charge.

I have two friends and a brother-in-law that are cops, they are the worst speeders I know yet not one of they ever gets a ticket...funny how that works!

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by T@T

In both cases my pink slips were expired, in both cases I told the cop I'll get you the proper one "today" as I just forgot to put the new one in the glovebox. In both cases I get $172.00 ticket and both are thrown out of court.

Think you're missing the point. your ticket might have gotten thrown out but I highly doubt it was because you showed proof of insurance at a later date.

The cops already know you have insurance, but the ticket is for not having proof in your car.

[ricoFlame]

Originally Posted by T@T

Please with the model citizen crap, the traps the cops set up are cash grabs plain and simple. the guy obviously wasn't speeding at a high rate or he wouldn't have gotten let off..I fail to see how this cop was a "good" guy by letting him off on a lower ticket and giving him a high one on a BS charge.

I have two friends and a brother-in-law that are cops, they are the worst speeders I know yet not one of they ever gets a ticket...funny how that works!

LOL, this post has nothing to do with what i said! hilarious, you're funny man.

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

That's why insurance agents are not lawyers.

If the cops ask for it and you refuse to show it they'll ticket you for failing to produce proof of insurance as listed above.

Its up to you to prove that you have insurance, not the police.

Or you get arrested for obstruction... either way, it's not a good choice to refuse.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by T@T

Please with the model citizen crap, the traps the cops set up are cash grabs plain and simple. the guy obviously wasn't speeding at a high rate or he wouldn't have gotten let off..I fail to see how this cop was a "good" guy by letting him off on a lower ticket and giving him a high one on a BS charge.

I have two friends and a brother-in-law that are cops, they are the worst speeders I know yet not one of they ever gets a ticket...funny how that works!

Haha, the traps the cops set eh. So how did the police set him up for not having proper proof of insurance? How did the police set him up to speed so he was noticed by the police? BTW you don't need to be speeding at a "high" rate to get a speeding ticket.

[schooner]

ive had a few experiences with traffic offenses, and im now in law school learning it from the other side....my advice: as long as you have the free time to get down to the court house on the particular day, do it. First, cops dont show up most of the time. Second, the courts couldnt be bothered when there is more serious offenses to be dealt with (I remember way back going to juvenile court to fight an LRT ticket and there was kids getting charged with grand theft auto and drug possession in excess of $5000, I was the least of their worry). When it comes to traffic court fight everything! Worst case scenario you pay the original fine, best case scenario you get off free. Most likely you pay a reduced rate somewhere in the middle. (In my experience you usually get off free)

[Yasa]

People make mistakes, whether you're a student or not. The OP didn't say that he didn't deserve the ticket, or that the cop was rude and in the wrong. He said he would have trouble affording the ticket, and was asking for advice on how to reduce or get rid of it.

Unbeknownst to some of you here; not everybody here makes 100,000/year, especially those in full time school. Doubley-so if there is a thin job market that caters to the hours of school.

Just a word of advice for some; use a ladder when getting onto your horse, it might reduce injury in the future.

[TSXCman]

Originally Posted by Rathji

Although you will pay Charlie more than your fine would have been, which doesn't make sense if it isn't demit offense.

It's free to find out the choice of action and cost. I have NEVER been charged more than my ticket cost for demerit/non alike

Originally Posted by schooner

ive had a few experiences with traffic offenses, and im now in law school learning it from the other side....my advice: as long as you have the free time to get down to the court house on the particular day, do it. First, cops dont show up most of the time. Second, the courts couldnt be bothered when there is more serious offenses to be dealt with (I remember way back going to juvenile court to fight an LRT ticket and there was kids getting charged with grand theft auto and drug possession in excess of $5000, I was the least of their worry). When it comes to traffic court fight everything! Worst case scenario you pay the original fine, best case scenario you get off free. Most likely you pay a reduced rate somewhere in the middle. (In my experience you usually get off free)

Wow, are you skipping a lot of Law school?

1) Cops not showing up for court is a thing of the past. If it does happen, it is the exception, not the rule.

2) Traffic and Crim court are two different things... so I don't really pick up what you're puttin down there.