02-07-2011, 10:02 AM
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Craig McTavish' Merkin
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It all depends on their intent. If they want the tournament to bring together people of congruent cultures in a sports setting, that's not racist. If they're excluding non-Natives because they feel they're inferior, then that is racist. I would guess it's the former.
And I agree about deleting this thread.
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02-07-2011, 10:06 AM
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Um...yeah.
OP, if I was you I would be begging the Mods to delete this thread before it blows up in your face...
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02-07-2011, 10:14 AM
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#23
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You could always file a complaint with the Human Rights Commission that you feel they're excluding you from participating based on your race.
It's free, and the government will pay for your legal council.
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02-07-2011, 10:20 AM
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Wait.. is it a basketball tournament or a hockey tournament?
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02-07-2011, 10:25 AM
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^^^ basketball
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02-07-2011, 10:26 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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OK, I'll edit the quote 
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02-07-2011, 10:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WindomURL
You say you have no problem with the tourney, yet you demonstrate otherwise with the bolded text.
Bigtime is right.
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i do not have a problem with the tournament.
i just find it interesting that 'native only' is ok, but 'white only' is a no-no in our society.
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02-07-2011, 10:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigtime
Someone reading this with nothing better to do does the following (could be a guest as well):
-googles 2011 Junior All-Native Tournament
-sees that it is in BC, and your location is Kelowna
-goes to the Facebook page
-they call the organizer and say one of the suppliers is making a fuss about it being an all-native tournament (even though you didn't say that)
-future business and reputation lost
Edit: I'm just playing devils advocate here, but it just seems that in this day when everything can be found online business' have to be very aware of how they present themselves at all times.
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I'm sure Ralph Scurfield and Doug Firby would agree.
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02-07-2011, 10:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigtime
-googles 2011 Junior All-Native Tournament
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Lucky for him this thread only shows up on the second page of results.
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02-07-2011, 10:38 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bc-chris
i do not have a problem with the tournament.
i just find it interesting that 'native only' is ok, but 'white only' is a no-no in our society.
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"Native" refers to a defined ethnic group, the decendants of the indigenous peoples of North America designated by various treaties. "White" is a skin colour.
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02-07-2011, 10:42 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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Hope your client isnt on CP
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02-07-2011, 10:44 AM
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It is a double standard, but some double standard for minorities can make some sense. As already mentioned, it's about the intent of the event; and if any group needs community strengthening it's Canada's natives.
Instead of worrying about if it's racist, I would focus on how a tournament like this may give those kids team skills, cooperation, confidence, healthy lifestyles, a venue to release tension/aggression and many other great values gained in social groups and team sports.
The more native youths getting those skills, the better for us of all races.
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02-07-2011, 11:23 AM
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Ice Player
"Native" refers to a defined ethnic group, the decendants of the indigenous peoples of North America designated by various treaties. "White" is a skin colour.
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Important point - if you want to have tournaments focused on a specific WHITE ethnic group there is no issue. As far as I know some of them exist - ie Scottish Highland Games
Last edited by Coys1882; 02-07-2011 at 11:32 AM.
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02-07-2011, 11:56 AM
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its the same as a "Womens only fitness" club ... imagine the uproar if it was "Mens only fitness" though!
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02-07-2011, 11:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fotze
Ya, that sounds pretty gay.
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NTTIAWWT!
Right?
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02-07-2011, 12:00 PM
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Yeah I think you get away with men's only fitness because everyone would assume it's a gay gym.
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02-07-2011, 12:04 PM
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Draft Pick
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well thats the sound of the point going over your heads.
fact is, the gym would never exist, men are not allowed to have their own clubs.
women, chinese, native and so on are ok, but you would never get away with making a mens only "anything" club.
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02-07-2011, 12:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mighty Tytan
well thats the sound of the point going over your heads.
fact is, the gym would never exist, men are not allowed to have their own clubs.
women, chinese, native and so on are ok, but you would never get away with making a mens only "anything" club.
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Yep right over my head. On the other hand, if I went to Men's Only Fitness nothing would go over my head, I'd make sure everything went right in.
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02-07-2011, 12:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Coys1882
Important point - if you want to have tournaments focused on a specific WHITE ethnic group there is no issue. As far as I know some of them exist - ie Scottish Highland Games
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And NASCAR.
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02-07-2011, 12:14 PM
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Is this gay? I thought it was a bicep. . .
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