02-04-2011, 08:58 AM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Scandal in Japan....Sumos admit match-fixing!!
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A sumo scandal in Japan got bigger after three wrestlers admitted to fixing matches.
The confessions are the latest in a scandal that involves 13 wrestlers and stable masters, who are accused of fixing matches through text messages.
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02-04-2011, 09:07 AM
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First Line Centre
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Pretty obvious after reading freakonomics
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02-04-2011, 09:11 AM
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Is nothing sacred anymore? When I bet on Sumo Wrestling I expect it to be honourable!
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02-04-2011, 09:13 AM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
Is nothing sacred anymore? When I bet on Sumo Wrestling I expect it to be honourable!
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Me too. Maybe i shouldn't always bet on the fat guy?
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02-04-2011, 09:23 AM
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Norm!
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So . . . mass suicides all around then
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02-04-2011, 09:33 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by koop
Pretty obvious after reading freakonomics
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I was thinking the exact same thing. If you read the book it actually makes sense why they fix matches too.
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02-04-2011, 10:22 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Calgary
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So this guy is mysteriously going to disappear in a few months then?
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02-04-2011, 10:26 AM
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Dances with Wolves
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Section 304
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I read freakonomics a few years ago and I assume Sumo is fixed because of it ... I don't quite remember the argument though. Refresh anybody?
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02-04-2011, 10:31 AM
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Franchise Player
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One example of the authors' use of economic theory involves demonstrating the existence of cheating among sumo wrestlers. In a sumo tournament, all wrestlers in the top division compete in 15 matches and face demotion if they do not win at least eight of them. The sumo community is very close-knit, and the wrestlers at the top levels tend to know each other well. The authors looked at the final match, and considered the case of a wrestler with seven wins, seven losses, and one fight to go, fighting against an 8-6 wrestler. Statistically, the 7-7 wrestler should have a slightly below even chance, since the 8-6 wrestler is slightly better. However, the 7-7 wrestler actually wins around 80% of the time. Levitt uses this statistic and other data gleaned from sumo wrestling matches, along with the effect that allegations of corruption have on match results, to conclude that those who already have 8 wins collude with those who are 7-7 and let them win, since they have already secured their position for the following tournament.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freakonomics
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02-04-2011, 10:35 AM
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Dances with Wolves
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Section 304
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Of all the intelligent nations on this planet, Japan couldn't figure that one out? Perhaps it was more of a "don't ask don't tell" sort of thing?
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02-04-2011, 10:39 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Considering how other fight promotions have worked in Japan, like Pride's policy of "come to japan, fight and maybe we'll pay you if it is convenient for us, don't look too closely at that contract", this isn't surprising.
Last edited by Matata; 02-04-2011 at 10:42 AM.
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02-04-2011, 10:53 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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As someone who actually follows sumo, speculation of Yaocho (match fixing) has been around for many, many years, but it's always just been hushed up. Now some idiots were really stupid about it and got caught.
The match fixing isn't about saving face, it's about maintaining their ranking as higher ranks earn more money. They get their salary from the sumo association, not from their managers or by signing professional contracts.
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02-04-2011, 01:17 PM
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Wucka Wocka Wacka
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: East of the Rockies, West of the Rest
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NOOOOO!!! I have Kiyoseumi in my Sumo pool
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02-04-2011, 01:36 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Me too. Maybe i shouldn't always bet on the fat guy?
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Well there goes my strategy for Ice Hockey.
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