The Dark Knight Rises: July 20, 2012

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by tripin_billie

I like the Tom Hardy choice, but I'm a bit at odds for Hathaway. I've only ever seen her in comedic roles. That being said, I'm really happy it wasn't Angelina Jolie.

Anne Hathaway's hotness rating shot up a couple points after seeing her in Brokeback Mountain. She's got a pretty fine set of...eyes...

[GreenLantern]

Knightfall
The plot of Knightfall beginswith the master criminal Bane freeing all of the maximum-security inmates of Arkham Asylum, a notorious psychiatric facility in Gotham City. Aware that he would lose in a direct assault against Batman, Bane's plan consists of weakening Batman by forcing him to deal with the deadly villains simultaneously. Among the freed inmates, there are numerous high-profile villains, such as the Joker (who trapped Arkham's administrator Jeremiah Arkham), and the Scarecrow, as well as many less known villains, such as the Mad Hatter, The Ventriloquist, Firefly, Cavalier, The Film Freak and Victor Zsasz. The scenario creates a rift in the relationship between Robin and Batman, as Batman irrationally seeks to face the outbreak alone—in later issues, Robin asks Batman if he is even needed as his sidekick anymore. A later flashback to this time period (Showcase '93 #7-8) shows Batman pursuing Two-Face alone, being trapped and kidnapped to stand a mock trial; he is saved only by a rescue attempt from Robin.



Bane breaks Batman's back in a splash page from Batman #497 (July 1993). Art by Jim Aparo.


Over the next few issues, Batman becomes weaker and weaker as each criminal is put away. The rescue of Mayor Krol from the combination of the Joker and Scarecrow takes Batman to his mental and physical limits: a dose of Scarecrow's fear gas makes him relive the murder of Jason Todd, which he considers to be his greatest failure. After this encounter, Bane makes his move and attacks Batman at Wayne Manor, his home as his alter-ego—by this time, Bane had deduced the secret identity of Batman. The fight between Bruce Wayne and Bane is detailed in Batman #497, and ends with Wayne's back being broken over Bane's knee inside the Batcave below the manor, "breaking" Batman and leaving Wayne a paraplegic.[1] Bane takes the grievously-wounded Wayne (still costumed in the Batman outfit) downtown to Gotham Square and throws him from a rooftop to demonstrate his superiority to the populace. With Batman incapacitated, Bane assumes control of Gotham City's underworld and takes over several illegal operations within it.

After his defeat, Bruce Wayne enlists the aid of Dr. Shondra Kinsolving to rehabilitate him and asks Jean-Paul Valley (Azrael) to take up the mantle of Batman so that Gotham has a protector. Tim Drake argues with Bruce to allow Dick Grayson (the former Robin and then-current Nightwing,) to become Batman, as he is more experienced and mentally competent. Bruce replies that Grayson has his own responsibilities and would only take up the mantle of the Bat reluctantly. (Dick later expressed resentment at not being asked to stand in as Batman.) Bruce's rationale for this decision is revealed in later issues - secretly, he doesn't want Dick to have to face Bane, as he knows Dick's character will compel him to try. Indeed, Bruce gives Jean-Paul strict orders never to engage Bane in combat -- and when Jean-Paul does face Bane, only his modified gloves save Jean-Paul from being thrown to his death.

Soon after, Kinsolving and Tim's father Jack Drake are kidnapped and Bruce and Alfred leave the country to find them - their story is continued in Knightquest: The Search, while the happenings in Gotham are recorded in Knightquest: The Crusade. Paul is shown to be a different, but not dangerous, Batman until an encounter with the Scarecrow, which results in Jean-Paul being infected by Scarecrow's fear gas and "The System" -- his programming as Azrael—taking over, in order to combat Jean-Paul's fear. Following this, Jean-Paul is unable to shake the influence of the System, giving into it completely after his first defeat at Bane's hands, and being increasingly influenced by it during the rest of his tenure as Batman. Gradually, Jean-Paul alienates Robin with his paranoia and arrogance.
In Batman #500, Jean-Paul, in his new mechanical Batsuit (which is an amalgam of the Azrael costume with the Batman's) confronts Bane in a arduous battle and prevails, although many bystanders are put at risk. Jean-Paul leaves Bane broken mentally and physically, though he struggles with the choice of whether to simply kill Bane or hand him over to the police. He decides that he will let Bane go to Blackgate Prison. Jean-Paul continues to watch over Gotham after the fight, but grows increasingly unstable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:...all#Knightfall

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

I hope that Nolan does some name dropping in the last movie, like say Bruce Wayne attending the circus and seeing Dick Grayson, maybe a short exchange.. nothing major but just enough to piss us off and say DAMNIT MAKE ANOTHER MOVIE NOW !

Bane eh.. weird.. I am guessing Batmans back is getting broken.

I am just glad they seem to be sticking with a Graham Nolan arc.

Or better yet, Batman see's Dick Grayson and then accidentilly runs him over with the bat mobile 8 times.

[GreenLantern]

And for those who think Bane is just a muscle head..

Bane is highly intelligent; in "Bane of the Demon", Ra al Ghul says that Bane "has a mind equal to the greatest he has known."[7] In prison, he taught himself various scientific disciplines equal to the level of understanding of leading experts in those fields.[4] He knows six active languages and at least two additional arcane and dead ones, those mentioned are Spanish, English, Urdu, Persian, and Latin.[7] The "Bane of the Demon" storyline reveals that he has a photographic memory. Within one year, he is able to deduce Batman's secret identity.[7]

Although extremely dangerous at all times, Bane is perfectly sane and in control of his mind and actions—a trait that separates him from many of Batman's enemies. While he generally acts as a villain, Bane has worked alongside Batman at times and developed a great respect for the Dark Knight. He is also one of the few villains of Batman to have learned his true identity.

He is also highly devious and a superb strategist and tactician.[4] In prison, Bane also invented his own form of calisthenics, meditation, and a unique fighting style.[7] Usage of Venom enhances his physical abilities, including his strength, and healing process to superhuman levels.[5][32][33] Although Bane had sworn off using Venom in Vengeance of Bane II in 1995, and his character is actually written as having kept that promise to himself, it is still not uncommon for artists to draw Bane as still wearing the tube leading from his old wrist device to the back of his head. This is likely due to the illustrators only being familiar with that early version of Bane's visual appearance. Gail Simone recently explained these lapses in the continuity of Bane's appearance in the pages Secret Six where Deadshot remarked that Bane merely kept his old Venom equipment with him out of habit, even though he states that he would sooner die before using any of it again. Regardless, Bane is depicted as physically stronger than Batman with or without Venom.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bane_(comics)

[3 Justin 3]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Well if this really is the last part of the trilogy I wonder if they do something unheard of and end the trilogy on a negative note with Bane breaking Batman's back like in the comic books.

Ends off this arc of Batman movies while leaving the door open for a different reboot with a "new" batman under different directors.

I think that'd be awesome, but it is a very predictable ending. When Tom Hardy was reported as being cast it said he was NOT going to be a villain, now he is Bane. I am really excited to see what they do with him as Bane is supposed to be abnormally freakishly large with muscles. Maybe they don't have the Venom drug then?

Since Hathaway is Catwomen, I wonder who the women villain will be? I hope Harley Quinn, make a twisted version of her like Nolan did with the Joker. Natalie Portman would be my choice if they do have Harley Quinn.

Probably going to be Talia Al Ghul though as they has Ras in Batman Begins.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by 3 Justin 3

I think that'd be awesome, but it is a very predictable ending.

It would be Predicable to those familiar with Batman and the Bane storyline but for those people that are just casual Batman/Batman Movie fans, and those that are the biggest market for the movie, it would be a shock ending to see a superhero actually be defeated in a movie.

[3 Justin 3]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

It would be Predicable to those familiar with Batman and the Bane storyline but for those people that are just casual Batman/Batman Movie fans, and those that are the biggest market for the movie, it would be a shock ending to see a superhero actually be defeated in a movie.

True.

I just want Harley Quinn dammit!

[VANFLAMESFAN]

nevermind..

[Mr.Coffee]

Why are there 8 Harry Potter movies but there will only be 3 of this series?

There is no god.

[Two Fivenagame]

Hathaway is a babe!

side-boob

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

Anne Hathaway's hotness rating shot up a couple points after seeing her in Brokeback Mountain. She's got a pretty fine set of...eyes...

her 'eyes' get a lot more screen time in Havoc

[Jake]

And in Love and Other Drugs.... don't ask why I've seen that movie.

[Yasa]

Originally Posted by 3 Justin 3

Natalie Portman would be my choice if they do have Harley Quinn.

For some reason after reading that, I pictured her character in Garden State, but waaaay more creepy. Would be interesting to see though.

[GreenLantern]

Natalie Portman would actually make a good Harley Quinn, but I believe that Nolan has cast his villain with Catwoman.

No doubt she will attempt to steal something, Batman will confront her, she will get the best of him because he will be awee struck by her feminine grace and big eyes.. then they will play cat and mouse (no pun intended) for the rest of the film.

All the while Bane will be building up in the background and a final confrontation will come down, probably involving Bane using Catwoman to get at Batman in some way..

[Sr. Mints]

The suspense is killing me!

I think Nolan is bold and daring enough to go the back-breaking Batman route. If they borrow from Knightfall in any way, I wonder if Azrael (Batman's chosen replacement who goes bad, for those who've not read it) will be in the movie in any way, shape, or form...

Actually, now that I think about it, Azrael should not be included. But maybe swap that character with another protege who has lost his way. Hell, Robin would even work--but I don't want them to go that route, either.

[TylerSVT]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

Natalie Portman would actually make a good Harley Quinn, but I believe that Nolan has cast his villain with Catwoman.

No doubt she will attempt to steal something, Batman will confront her, she will get the best of him because he will be awee struck by her feminine grace and big eyes.. then they will play cat and mouse (no pun intended) for the rest of the film.

All the while Bane will be building up in the background and a final confrontation will come down, probably involving Bane using Catwoman to get at Batman in some way..

If that was the entirety of the plot than i would punch Nolan in the face.


Looking at how well Dark knight worked i would hope that Nolan does this last movie justice.

[Machiavelli]

I can't picture the doe-eyed Hathaway as Catwoman, but I guess we'll see.

[Icon]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

I can't picture the doe-eyed Hathaway as Catwoman, but I guess we'll see.

I can picture her as Michelle Pfeiffer playing Selina Kyle... so as far as Catwoman it really comes down to what they do with her outfit...



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rawr (from Havoc)

[getbak]

Me-Yow!

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Icon

I can picture her as Michelle Pfeiffer playing Selina Kyle... so as far as Catwoman it really comes down to what they do with her outfit...



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rawr (from Havoc)