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Old 12-13-2010, 07:11 AM   #1
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This is in Canada...so how far are we behind?
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Old 12-13-2010, 07:46 AM   #2
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I'm not sure I get your point? It sounds like an angry white English guy ranting about Sweden's multicultural system? How would an English guy understand Sweden?

And - the photo. I don't get it either? It's a private business that is a Halal restaurant. You don't agree with them having a "women and children" section? Don't patronize them. Seems like they know what their customers want - or do you want to tell them how to run their business?
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I'm not sure I get your point? It sounds like an angry white English guy ranting about Sweden's multicultural system? How would an English guy understand Sweden?

And - the photo. I don't get it either? It's a private business that is a Halal restaurant. You don't agree with them having a "women and children" section? Don't patronize them. Seems like they know what their customers want - or do you want to tell them how to run their business?
Come on, don't be so naive, thats obviously a terrorist training camp in downtown Stockholm.
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It's only a matter of time before Sweden becomes a Mulsim state? Is this guy for real?
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They could probably sell more halwa if they tweaked the prices a bit, say a 1/4 kg for $3...a 1/2 kg for $5...and 1 kg for $10.
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It's an interesting argument about immigration and multiculturalism in western society. Which is becoming more about how far are western cultures willing to bend over backwards to accept these ideas. Is it perhaps due to some kind of guilt for the way other cultures were treated by western nations in generations past? The problem is it is like we are not allowed to preserve our own culture.

Nor are many immigrants willing to integrate in to western society. Instead forming their own communities where they retain all aspects of their own cultures with no regard for ours.
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They could probably sell more halwa if they tweaked the prices a bit, say a 1/4 kg for $3...a 1/2 kg for $5...and 1 kg for $10.
Yeah wheres the incentive to buy in bulk?
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And - the photo. I don't get it either? It's a private business that is a Halal restaurant. You don't agree with them having a "women and children" section? Don't patronize them. Seems like they know what their customers want - or do you want to tell them how to run their business?
Really? So as a comparison I could have a "colored" and a "whites only" section in my restaurant and that would ok? I can do what I want being a private business after all, you don't have to support me.
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Really? So as a comparison I could have a "colored" and a "whites only" section in my restaurant and that would ok? I can do what I want being a private business after all, you don't have to support me.
This argument holds no water, theres still country clubs that don't accept women.
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This argument holds no water, theres still country clubs that don't accept women.
That doesn't make either right.
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This argument holds no water, theres still country clubs that don't accept women.
and gyms that don't accept men!
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and gyms that don't accept men!
Exactly, Table 5 should be allowed to get a membership at Spa Lady if he wants.
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It's an interesting argument about immigration and multiculturalism in western society. Which is becoming more about how far are western cultures willing to bend over backwards to accept these ideas. Is it perhaps due to some kind of guilt for the way other cultures were treated by western nations in generations past? The problem is it is like we are not allowed to preserve our own culture.

Nor are many immigrants willing to integrate in to western society. Instead forming their own communities where they retain all aspects of their own cultures with no regard for ours.
Meanwhile, in one of the most racially homogenous and anal-retentive societies on Earth, Japan, a population decline is forcing a re-evaluation of nearly impossible-to-penetrate immigration policies.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...072706053.html

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with regards to the recent car bombings in Sweden, I do find it interesting that some jihad pinhead would target the very country that has embraced his kind more than almost any other European country.

Initial reports are suggesting he did it because of oppression against Muslims in Europe?!

Sorry, but a three page hahahahahahahahaha would be the only reponse I have for that. What a joke.
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with regards to the recent car bombings in Sweden, I do find it interesting that some jihad pinhead would target the very country that has embraced his kind more than almost any other European country.

Initial reports are suggesting he did it because of oppression against Muslims in Europe?!

Sorry, but a three page hahahahahahahahaha would be the only reponse I have for that. What a joke.
Well it's just so hard to get into the other European countries to bomb them.
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Old 12-13-2010, 08:56 AM   #18
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Good old HOZ...

In this hectic, hurly burly world, sometimes it's nice to know that some people manage to be who they are, regardless of the times.
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A big swing and a miss here. The gentleman in this video is Pat Condell and he has a big axe to grind with anyone who disagrees with his point of view, especially those of the Muslim faith. This may not be surprising as he is also a noted Atheist and willing to challenge anyone on religion. He tends to lay at the feet of Islam any problem possible. Some may say that he is prophetic in his diatribes but others say he misses the point altogether.

My major problem with Condell is he is fast and loose with the facts. He will latch onto a topic and present what he finds that fits his narrative rather than drilling deeper to find the facts. I find that to be dishonest. For example, in this particular instance he repeats a fallacy talked about on RW web sites. The following link is from a 2009 blog entry.

http://theopinionator.typepad.com/my...-of-rapes.html

The reality is much different. Here at the 2009 rape statistics for the world.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap-crime-rapes

The United States leads the way by a massive margin. Embarrassingly, Canada comes in 3rd. Of European countries the United Kingdom leads the way at #7 on the list. Sweden comes in at #22, with 1/6 the incidents of rape as the UK. For those concerned about per capita statistics, Nationmaster doesn't let you down.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...pes-per-capita

Iceland leads the way for EU countries at #10 with the UK coming in at #13. Sweden is not listed in the top 65, but doing the math it puts them on par with the UK. So is there an axe to grind here? Nope. Just a wind bag taking at run at a subject he likes to rail on about without looking at the actual facts. Maybe he's still butt hurt about Sweden being rated a better country to live than the UK.



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It's an interesting argument about immigration and multiculturalism in western society. Which is becoming more about how far are western cultures willing to bend over backwards to accept these ideas. Is it perhaps due to some kind of guilt for the way other cultures were treated by western nations in generations past? The problem is it is like we are not allowed to preserve our own culture.

Nor are many immigrants willing to integrate in to western society. Instead forming their own communities where they retain all aspects of their own cultures with no regard for ours.
Really? Take a look around and tell me how much of "our own culture" you see. Yep, it sure looks like we've been overrun.
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