2010 Blue Jays Season Thread

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

The trade was Farquar and Mangnuson for Davis. Relievers have no value, and minor league relievers have even less. I'm not sure Davis will be an every day player, but is definitely insurance in case we can't get a 3B or 1B.

Thanks, it was also mentioned that the Jays released Shawn Hill

[RedHot25]

Its official; Buck is gone to the Marlins: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5818759

All-Star catcher John Buck and the Florida Marlins have finalized an $18 million, three-year contract.

Buck passed his physical Wednesday and the deal was completed, a day after the sides agreed to terms. He gets a $1.5 million signing bonus, $4.5 million next season and $6 million each in 2012 and 2013.

[Flickered Flame]

Davis is not an everyday player. When the A's were forced to use as one, he wore down and the batting average dropped. He is a decent contact hitter, but very streaky. Little to no power. He is a great base runner though. I would say he is only average defensively. He has great speed which is great but he doesn't have a great arm and frequently takes poor routes to fly balls which resulted in some drop in for hits.

A good pickup for the Jays though, nice player to have coming off the bench. For the A's they needed to move an outfielder.

[Gozer]

Davis and Wells?

That seems like a big investment in team speed.

-J.P Riccardi

[secol]

Originally Posted by Flickered Flame

Davis is not an everyday player. When the A's were forced to use as one, he wore down and the batting average dropped. He is a decent contact hitter, but very streaky. Little to no power. He is a great base runner though. I would say he is only average defensively. He has great speed which is great but he doesn't have a great arm and frequently takes poor routes to fly balls which resulted in some drop in for hits.

A good pickup for the Jays though, nice player to have coming off the bench. For the A's they needed to move an outfielder.

works perfectly
lewis VS RHP, davis VS LHP. their career splits agrees with me. use the other like a fourth OF'er to give wells or snider a break every once in a while as well as pinch runner/defensive replacement

[ricoFlame]

Interesting deal, speed kills.

[zukes]

Jays apparently going so hard after Upton that they scared off the Red Sox

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/toront...ays/index.html

[Jason14h]

According to Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com, the Blue Jays are showing "strong interest" in acquiring Justin Upton.
In fact, the Blue Jays are the "unspecified team" that Rosenthal alluded to in a report this morning. It's not clear what they would be willing to part with, but it stands to reason that the Diamondbacks wouldn't do a deal without young right-hander Kyle Drabek.

Arizona is asking for the stars, moon, and Mars it seems!

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Would the Jays even consider moving Drabek at this time? Some of you know more about Upton than I do, I just assumed Drabek was pretty highly regarded.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Would the Jays even consider moving Drabek at this time? Some of you know more about Upton than I do, I just assumed Drabek was pretty highly regarded.

I doubt it, I would think Marcum is the Starting Pitcher that would be in a potential deal

[secol]

upton won't be moved unless it is drabek + way more. upton is/was pretty damn high regarded himself. five-tool player, broke into the league at 20 years old and still only 23 now

[Antithesis]

Definitely surprised to hear the Jays linked with Upton. That doesn't seem like the type of deal the Jays would be in on right now. I mean, he's an outfielder ... but I guess they could move Bautista? I will plead ignorance here a little bit as I don't know much about Upton.

[secol]

oops sorry he broke in at 19 years old not 20. compared to griffey when drafted, former SS moved to OF. main issue is striking out too much

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by secol

main issue is striking out too much

He'll fit right in!

[dustyanddaflames]

I think with the way Farrell sees this team going forward (more stolen bases, going first-to-third), Justin Upton is the exact type of player the Jays should be coveting. While young (23), and impatient at the plate, Upton is one of them "raw" five-tool players that owners love to watch grow within the organization. Upton, as of now, is a 25 hr - 20 sb - 285 ba type player, and he is 23. Throw in a guy who smacked 50+ home runs last year behind him in the order, and Upton will finally have the protection needed. I don't believe you land a Justin Upton without a prospect like Kyle Drabek involved. Kevin Towers really has himself in a good situation in regards to Upton, as either you sweep him off his feet, or he just keeps one of the league's best, young hitters who he just signed to a 5 (maybe 6) year deal. I like it, and honestly was not surprised to hear A.A. involved in these talks.

As for Drabek, I can't remember where it was (I do believe it was his final start on Sportsnet), that one of the announcers said something along the lines of, "don't be surprised if this is Drabek's final start as a Blue Jay". At the time it struck me as odd, as he was the centerpiece of the Halladay deal, but he just may be the piece that nabs something more. With Deck McGuire and Zach Stewart a few years away, the Blue Jays staff is young enough, with enough upside - they just may be fine without him.

I don't know what it is, but as a Blue Jay fan, it is really refreshing to hear the Jays involved in talks with such young players and huge upside.

(As for Marcum, is he not a free agent at the end of next year?)

EDIT - Kevin Towers didn't sign him, as he was just named GM this past off-season. My bad, wasn't supposed to read that way.

[bluejays]

I really like what AA's doing, and if he sees it fit to deal Drabek and a utility player for Upton, I'm up for it. What is somewhat disturbing though, is that Upton is an OF and traditionally I don't agree with trading a possible Ace for any outfielder. I really like the fact that they're trying to run this upcoming season which differentiates themselves bigtime from Boston and NY. If they could somehow get a guy like Upton and also get a bigname powerhitter at first, this team has enough young arms to fill the reliever roles and all of a sudden they're young, but can compete immediately for years to come. I know Drabek is still young, but I don't see him being Lincecum (small guy, big arm). Perhaps more of a Brett Anderson with more control and less power, but so far in his few starts, I don't see that future ace stuff.

[Gozer]

Originally Posted by fleury

What is somewhat disturbing though, is that Upton is an OF and traditionally I don't agree with trading a possible Ace for any outfielder.

I agree with the principle, but if Upton is a generational talent then the rules are out the window.

I've never actually seen the guy play, is he worth a king's ransom?

[secol]

right now? probably not. but again this guy essentially oozes the potential to do it all.......the question is how much more he'll develop

[zukes]

Package supposedly would have to include Snider, but Upton is far further along than Snider, though Travis is a year younger and has had Cito playing guys over him for no reason other than to get veterans new contracts or reach arbitrary goals.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

The Blue Jays offered salary arbitration to four of their free agents — relievers Scott Downs, Jason Frasor, Kevin Gregg and catcher Miguel Olivo — Tuesday in advance of the 11:59 p.m. ET deadline.

http://www.scoreboard.name/blue-jays...vo-three-arms/