11-12-2010, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by photon
And in 12:29 the threat is followed through on all the firstborn of the cattle were smote. Again.
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That's how you knew God was serious. He done gone killed them twice!
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11-12-2010, 04:02 PM
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#22
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God of Hating Twitter
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Yet America has a vast number of literalist believers in the Bible.
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11-12-2010, 04:02 PM
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#23
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Originally Posted by peter12
This graphic goes back to what I said about buying one's atheism on the cheap.
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So if you were a baseball pitcher, this statement would be your fastball? 
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11-12-2010, 04:05 PM
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#24
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The new goggles also do nothing.
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Originally Posted by sclitheroe
I don't see what the big deal is. The bible is a collection of books whose authorship spans a huge span of time, multiple languages, multiple cultures, and is largely derived from an oral story telling tradition.
If there were no discrepancies or contradictions, we'd have even less insight into the development of the theological, social, and moral and even historical underpinnings of some of the earliest outposts of human culture.
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This isn't targeted at people who would agree with what you just said. This is targeted at those that would say what you said is a lie from the devil and an attempt to lead people away from salvation.
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11-12-2010, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by photon
The Bible is FAR more interesting if you embrace the differences and start to look at where the differences come from. Instead of trying to mash the gospels together to come up with some 5th gospel with no contradictions that no one ever wrote, ask why did Luke change Mark one way and Matthew change Mark another; there's theological reasons that are very interesting.
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If that is, indeed, interesting to you, I recommend The Evolution of God by Robert Wright.
It covers religion in general, but spends a great deal of time theorizing on the evolution of the Abrahamic religions from polytheistic to monotheistic and the development of the writing of the bible.
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11-12-2010, 04:10 PM
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I love it when atheists preach their gospel!
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11-12-2010, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Thor
So if you were a baseball pitcher, this statement would be your fastball? |
No, it'd be slowpitch, but I'd still throw a strike.
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11-12-2010, 04:15 PM
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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11-12-2010, 04:18 PM
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Ah, the rhetorical gif... Crushing blow.
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11-12-2010, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by peter12
Ah, the rhetorical gif... Crushing blow.
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The lack of sophistication eh?
If only people could create jokes worthy of your praise 
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11-12-2010, 04:25 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Originally Posted by Mike F
If that is, indeed, interesting to you, I recommend The Evolution of God by Robert Wright.
It covers religion in general, but spends a great deal of time theorizing on the evolution of the Abrahamic religions from polytheistic to monotheistic and the development of the writing of the bible. |
Thanks! Lol I went to add that to my wish list and it's already there! 
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11-12-2010, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Huntingwhale
In all fairness, this book is thousands and thousands of years old. When you have these stories being passed down from generation to generation for thousands of years, of course you are going to find contradictions. And when you have multiple authors (Mathew, Mark, Luke, John for example) writting about the life of a person (Jesus) you're going to find contradictions.
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When stories involve burning bushes and stuff that can't physically happen, then you're going to get contradictions.
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11-12-2010, 04:29 PM
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You know his name wasn't really Jesus Christ, Right?
Jesus is just the Greek translation of Yeshua, which translates from Hebrew to Joshua. But his name wasn't Josh Christ, Either, since his parents weren't Joseph and Mary Christ. So it's really not blasphemy to say "Jesus Christ", because it's not taking the right name in vain.
Isn't religion fun?
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11-12-2010, 04:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike F
If that is, indeed, interesting to you, I recommend The Evolution of God by Robert Wright.
It covers religion in general, but spends a great deal of time theorizing on the evolution of the Abrahamic religions from polytheistic to monotheistic and the development of the writing of the bible. |
Bah! Kindle version not available in Canada!
Too bad. Consider my interest piqued.
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11-12-2010, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by thor
the lack of sophistication eh?
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bah!
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11-12-2010, 05:45 PM
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Loves Teh Chat!
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11-12-2010, 05:49 PM
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Holy crap atheists care more about religion than most religious people do.
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11-12-2010, 05:59 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
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Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Torture
The thing most atheists don't understand is that most religious people view the bible as allegory and metaphor as well.
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I think the atheists who have given it some serious thought or have spent any time researching religion do. And any atheists who know people from the "allegory" majority would know too, so I'm not sure I agree with "most", but I'm sure some percentage don't.
I've certainly run into a lot of "they don't really believe that though do they?" among atheists and agnostics when beliefs like a 6000 year old earth come up, so the opposite exists as well.
And part of it is perception, an atheist may fully well understand that the majority of Christians view the flood as a myth, so when they give some reasons the flood is mythical, they aren't talking to that majority, because there's no disagreement. So does it just appear that they don't think that majority is there, and in fact it's just because they're focusing their discussion with someone else?
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11-12-2010, 06:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Huntingwhale
In all fairness, this book is thousands and thousands of years old. When you have these stories being passed down from generation to generation for thousands of years, of course you are going to find contradictions. And when you have multiple authors (Mathew, Mark, Luke, John for example) writting about the life of a person (Jesus) you're going to find contradictions.
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I find it ironic that you're religious.
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11-12-2010, 06:01 PM
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If you take the bible too serious - you're doing it wrong. Seriously - would people follow a medical document from 2000 years ago to treat someone? No. It's the same logic - they didn't know how to explain some things that we know now. Just like 2000 years from now they'll laugh at our sh1tty TVs and attempts to be 'advanced'
Times change - people change, but that doesn't mean the bible can't be used to help guide, not enforce, a set of moral beliefs.
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