The funny thing is that this super nerd that Asian parents try and mold their kids into (of all work and no play) absolutely gets destroyed in the real world work force. That's typically not the person that rises fast in an organization as a leader of people.
Not that they won't be valued in an organization, but they're the ones that get locked up in a room running Matlab all day.
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The only issue I have with minorities in university courses is the language barrier that sometimes exists. Being in a group with an ESL student who is fresh with English is difficult and often creates more work for myself. Having to do a presentation with such a student is often difficult and almost a waste of time during their presentation because then many have difficulties understanding.
I will often drop a course if I have difficulty understanding the prof.
If more ESL students enroll, soon you could see more ESL profs, leading to a difficulty and I feel many students would struggle learning as much as they possibly could.
Do ESL students struggle understanding other ESL people speak in English?
If the "Asian" is a citizen of Canada attending the University I have no issue. If they are on a visa then that is a different issue.
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If the "Asian" is a citizen of Canada attending the University I have no issue. If they are on a visa then that is a different issue.
Why? Non-Asian non-citizens of Canada have the same opportunites to get a VISA. Unless you are saying that all University students should be Canadian Citizens.
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But I've found this to be a serious issue. Let's say for example China does something stupid like, make defective toys. Some people will be up in arms saying all Chinese suck, not making the distinction between those in China and those who years ago escaped Communism and hate China too!
Overseas Asians are generally anti-communist. That's why they're overseas!
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But I've found this to be a serious issue. Let's say for example China does something stupid like, make defective toys. Some people will be up in arms saying all Chinese suck, not making the distinction between those in China and those who years ago escaped Communism and hate China too!
Overseas Asians are generally anti-communist. That's why they're overseas!
Overseas Soviets were/are anti-communist too, with few exceptions....
I do think that Canadian universities should continue to be focused on servicing Canadians, but there's no doubt in my mind that universities benefit from having many international students including Asian students. As Canadians, we have a much easier road in getting into top quality universities than would many Asian students.
The fact is that there is such a wealth of talent and ability in Asia that Canadian universities can be very selective in terms of who gets in, and it's very competitive to get into an elite university. Just looking at the raw numbers for population it's not hard to figure out that there will be a hell of a lot more smart and able people in China and India than there are in Canada. Because of those numbers and level of competition among them universities in Canada can select some excellent elite level minds to join the student body. Furthermore, they are not necessarily just bright people but a lot of the students that earn those opportunities have done so through extremely hard work. It is no surprise in Asia to find students that study until midnight and past that every day even at the middle school level.
There are two major questions for universities as I see it:
1. Will they be elite international educational institutions or very good national institutions.?
If a university in Canada puts a strong limit on the number of international students in the school then it's limiting itself to a pool of university age applicants in a population of 30+ million as opposed to a pool of applicants from a population in the billions. Whether the institutions are Canadian or not, that massive market is going to have institutions rise to fill their needs as those populations are achieving higher quality lives with more opportunities and education, and those institutions will be able to attract masses of excellent talent.
2. Are their entrance procedures and requirements attracting the kind of students they really want?
It is big business in Asia getting kids to meet the current entrance requirements of those elite universities they target in the West. There are even kindergartens in Asia that market themselves on beginning to groom children for attending elite foreign universities, and parents who will compete to have their children attend these. This goes on throughout all grades of many elite schools in Asia, and the promise of getting into an elite foreign university is what motivates parents to sacrifice a great deal in getting their kids into and through those schools.
The forces that shape the nature of these schools are the entrance requirements of those universities and intense competition to satisfy them. Just as it has always been, universities shape much of K-12 education and determine what kind of people K-12 aims to produce. In a situation of intense competition like there is in Asia universities end up getting more of what meets their entrance requirements. If universities aren't satisfied with the type of students they're getting from Asia then they can change their entrance requirements and those K-12 and after school training programs will adapt to produce different students.
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