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[Roof-Daddy]

I like the show, but last nights episode did have a couple things that made me "roll my eyes" I guess.

1. Everybody standing around (groaning and cringing) while the cop chopped up the zombie body with an axe. Obviously done for dramatic effect, but there is no way the people standing around aren't going to get splashed by blood and/or tissue and become infected themselves.

2. I know they were wearing rubber gloves and rain coats, but slathering that much blood, tissue and guts on themselves, there is no way, IMO, that they wouldn't get some of that stuff on their skin.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Mike F

If they wanted to set up a character trying to cling to the last vestiges of society and maintailnaw and order that would be really interesting, but here, the character hesitating over a necklace had, just 20 minutes ago, grabbed the sheriff by the neck, stuck a gun to his temple, and threatened to shoot him. No internal consistency.

To be fair, this is what most people in real life are like. They have almost random behaviour lines that they will or will not cross. For instance I have friends who smoke weed but won't touch other drugs and friends who attend church regularly but find it acceptable to get wasted on the weekends or have pre-marital sex.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I like the show, but last nights episode did have a couple things that made me "roll my eyes" I guess.

1. Everybody standing around (groaning and cringing) while the cop chopped up the zombie body with an axe. Obviously done for dramatic effect, but there is no way the people standing around aren't going to get splashed by blood and/or tissue and become infected themselves.

2. I know they were wearing rubber gloves and rain coats, but slathering that much blood, tissue and guts on themselves, there is no way, IMO, that they wouldn't get some of that stuff on their skin.

They haven't said exactly what the means of transmission are yet other than biting. Maybe getting it on your skin isn't enough. Perhaps you need to get the zombie blood into an open wound.

In 28 days later, it was enough to get it into our eyes or mouth, but that might not be enough here.

[Knut]

To answer your question.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Walking_Dead from the comic version.

Zombie body fluids getting on a human will not infect them. It is not the bite itself that zombifies a person, all the bite does is cause a serious infection, which kills the human within days - however, promptly removing the limb of a person bitten will ensure survival.

The zombies crave living flesh. Some, dubbed "roamers", travel constantly and will chase prey or noises for many miles. "Lurker" zombies await prey to come close to them, and retaliate if they are disturbed, by a zombie or non-zombie alike, although it will chase after a non-zombie. It is not specified how a zombie becomes either type. Other zombies vocalize and make grunting or moaning sounds at times or constantly, but some do not. All zombies move much slower and more irregularly than humans, and humans can easily outrun or even briskly out-walk a zombie, however, zombies can only, very briefly, move more quickly by lunging, and a zombie may grow tired of roaming, after running out of either willpower or energy itself.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by blankall

They haven't said exactly what the means of transmission are yet other than biting. Maybe getting it on your skin isn't enough. Perhaps you need to get the zombie blood into an open wound.

In 28 days later, it was enough to get it into our eyes or mouth, but that might not be enough here.

Oh yeah, totally agree. We don't know, and the characters probably aren't 100% sure yet as to how the infection spreads.

It's just that right before they started slathering, the cop said for everyone "to be sure you don't get any on your skin or in your eyes".....

Being that he said that, you'd think they would have been more careful while all standing around when he buried an axe into a zombies abdomen and such...

There would definitely be splatter.

Oh well, I've still enjoyed the show so far.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Oh yeah, totally agree. We don't know, and the characters probably aren't 100% sure yet as to how the infection spreads.

It's just that right before they started slathering, the cop said for everyone "to be sure you don't get any on your skin or in your eyes".....

Being that he said that, you'd think they would have been more careful while all standing around when he buried an axe into a zombies abdomen and such...

There would definitely be splatter.

Oh well, I've still enjoyed the show so far.

and then right after that the cop takes off his glove to get the cuff key out of his pocket, all while being slathered in zombie goo. that was the one part that got me

[boogerz]

Other than what was mentioned by Hesla here is a semi spoiler about how/why humans become zombies

Spoiler!

In the comic it says that everyone is already infected, and as soon as they die they'll become a zombie(assuming their body hasn't been completely mutilated)

That explains why the soldier in the tank was a zombie despite being isolated from zombies in the tank

[Boblobla]

I think you are all applying unrealistic expectations on a zombie thriller...

I love it so far. Sucks the first season is only 6 episodes. Next weeks looks good.

[SeeBass]

Originally Posted by Mike F

If they wanted to set up a character trying to cling to the last vestiges of society and maintailnaw and order that would be really interesting, but here, the character hesitating over a necklace had, just 20 minutes ago, grabbed the sheriff by the neck, stuck a gun to his temple, and threatened to shoot him. No internal consistency.

It’s like the zombies -- here, they sense by smell, can detect characters in a department store through two sets of glass doors and wil stop an nothing to get them. Yet last episode, the black guy and his son had apparently been fine living in zombie town by simply boarding a door and keeping the lights low. Black guy’s wife even stood right in front of the door with the sheriff staring through the peep hole and she had no clue. No internal consistency.


No. I’m a big fan of sci-fi, fantasy, etc., and can enjoy a good monster movie, but don’t think I should have to completely turn off my brain to do so. You want to, fine.

if you don't like it your loss

If you are a big fan of sci-fi then you must shut off your head many times as the real good ones are few and far between but for some reason this one is different and requires perfection?
I guess you didn't like the errors in all the superhero comics, lord of the rings, virtually every space movie etc etc etc.
So really what do you watch if you are a great sci-fi fan? name something you enjoy and if I know it I bet I could drive a truck through the mistakes.

I would be suprised to see a post from you next week as it would be silly to keep watching a show you obviously don't like unless all you want to do is complain

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by SeeBass

I would be suprised to see a post from you next week as it would be silly to keep watching a show you obviously don't like unless all you want to do is complain

huh, I must have missed the disclaimer that stated all posts must be positive.

[SeeBass]

Originally Posted by Boblobla

huh, I must have missed the disclaimer that stated all posts must be positive.

No need to be positive but I wouldnt expect a post about a show that he doesnt like. So I doubt he would watch it, hence no post.

[SeeBass]

You know you guys are mentioning quite a few sloppy mistakes now. Thanks for wrecking a show for me. I usually do that to my wife all the time.

Perhaps I should get off Mike F's back

[Crispy's Critter]

liking it a lot so far, except for the one totally unrealistic part of the show; the zombies! they don't exist, so they shouldn't be there!

but other than the zombie parts it's pretty decent.

[Igottago]

I actually agree with Mike F. I was a fan of the first episode, but this one seemed to drop off in quality, bigtime. If this was the first episode I saw, I'd pretty underwhelmed. Yeah, to an extent you have to turn your brain off in these genres, but do I have to become a zombie myself to enjoy this show?

I'm not going to repeat a lot of what Mike F and others have already pointed out, but another thing that irked me was that a lot of the characters trapped in the city also seem to have sibling/family members out in the country, and in the same camp no less. What a coincedence. So is this show going to be about the human spirit and survival in the face of disaster, or is it going to become days of our lives, with zombies?

Also, I just didn't find the characters all that engaging. Their personas seemed kind of forced, unlike the characters from the first episode. Like the racist guy on the roof trying to take command. I thought that was pretty poorly done. Its not like it was a normal guy with some racist tendencies, that he was conflicted against in the face of tragedy. Its like "lets take an over the top racist guy and stick him on the rooftop with a black guy". That whole exchange would've been better if they toned it down and bit and maybe added a bit of complexity to his character.

I'll still give it a chance next week, but less excited about the show than I initially was.

[FlamesAllTheWay]

Definitely a fan of this show. Fan of the genre so it's about time someone took a stab at a TV series where you actually have a chance to take it a step further. All of the movies are exactly the same, mostly because you only have 2 hours tops to work with. After you cram in the usual zombie cliches in, there's not much time left to add anything new. I remember watching all the extras of I Am Legend, little animated skits where they show other experiences from around the world, and thinking there's so much potential to expand on a universe like that beyond what we saw in the movie.

Agreed that the first episode was better than the second, however. That may be in part because of the extra half hour the first episode had. Liked the look of the spoilers for episode 3, too bad that's already halfway done the season... so far so good for me!

[FlamesAllTheWay]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Also, I just didn't find the characters all that engaging. Their personas seemed kind of forced, unlike the characters from the first episode. Like the racist guy on the roof trying to take command. I thought that was pretty poorly done. Its not like it was a normal guy with some racist tendencies, that he was conflicted against in the face of tragedy. Its like "lets take an over the top racist guy and stick him on the rooftop with a black guy". That whole exchange would've been better if they toned it down and bit and maybe added a bit of complexity to his character.

Meh, give it time (as you said you were going to). Some characters will be developed, some likely will fall into the usual apocalyptic 1 dimensional stereotypes that are found in the genre, as you mentioned above... the alpha characters that will do anything to survive, the characters that are too nice and innocent to fully embrace the situation, the logical thinkers that are sometimes slow to act as they need to think their way out of the situation, useless cowards, etc. Part of the fun of the genre is seeing how these character types interact with one another when they're constantly forced to.

I imagine that racist guy will be that one character you hope dies, yell at the screen for someone to kill him when they get the chance, but pulls through in order to screw the rest of the group over at a later point. The human villain in the zombie world!

[Ark2]

It will be really interesting to see if Rick ever meets up with his wife and kid again, and if so, what will happen with his partner. In terms of plot and character development, that could be a gold mine (do they seperate? do they both share her? Do they fight for her?).

[DrJ]

Originally Posted by Ark2

It will be really interesting to see if Rick ever meets up with his wife and kid again, and if so, what will happen with his partner. In terms of plot and character development, that could be a gold mine (do they seperate? do they both share her? Do they fight for her?).

They will meet up for sure...

"If I see my wife and kid, I will tell them about random zombie dude who I hacked up."

I was thinking that contemplative zombie would be the one to see past their disguises but that never materialized.

Fun show to watch; I'm digging it so far!

[Sly]

I'm digging this show... one thing that bothers me a bit is the acting in some scenes... other than that definitely one of the shows not to miss every week.

[the crispy badger]

bumped for tonights episode..cant wait